ScottishRailFanatic Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Bordering the limits of the loading gauge, a Class 56-style D-D arrangement... And on the other end of the spectrum, a 'Baby Shed'! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, ScottishRailFanatic said: And on the other end of the spectrum, a 'Baby Shed'! A sort of modern Class 25? I feel some bodgery with a Lima Shed coming on, just got to find a cheap one... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottishRailFanatic said: And on the other end of the spectrum, a 'Baby Shed'! Isn't a Baby Shed a Skip? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2021 Has anyone on this thread ever modelled the (cancelled) BR Class 38? I can't remember if BR ever got as far as a 3D model to indicate the likely appearance. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 hours ago, ScottishRailFanatic said: Bordering the limits of the loading gauge, a Class 56-style D-D arrangement... And on the other end of the spectrum, a 'Baby Shed'! How about a Bo-Bo class 56? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Northmoor said: Has anyone on this thread ever modelled the (cancelled) BR Class 38? I can't remember if BR ever got as far as a 3D model to indicate the likely appearance. I think I saw something in one of the comics that looked like a shortened class 58 on 2 axle bogies. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu4472ke Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) An idea I came up with yesterday, made from bits of GBL Coronation. I guess Stanier caught wind of Gresley's mountain and wanted a piece of the action. I just need to think of a name, number, and livery Edited June 27, 2021 by Lu4472ke 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRailFanatic Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Continuing my role-swapping editing spree, here are three more edits in order: - Small mixed traffic Deltic ‘Demi-Deltic’ - Heavy Class 67 ‘Super Skip’ - Extremely (!) heavy freight Class 40 ‘Whistler’-style 1D-D1 ‘Howler’ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traintresta Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 12 hours ago, ScottishRailFanatic said: And on the other end of the spectrum, a 'Baby Shed'! This works. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 4 hours ago, ScottishRailFanatic said: Heavy Class 67 ‘Super Skip’ I like it… It’s a bit like this Israeli one? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traintresta Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Always liked these as well, like heavier class 67's. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Grizz said: I like it… It’s a bit like this Israeli one? 58 minutes ago, Traintresta said: Always liked these as well, like heavier class 67's. I've always thought the 67s looked wrong on 4 axles, like on tiptoes. 6 axles look better to me. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 13 hours ago, Northmoor said: Has anyone on this thread ever modelled the (cancelled) BR Class 38? I can't remember if BR ever got as far as a 3D model to indicate the likely appearance. 11 hours ago, rodent279 said: I think I saw something in one of the comics that looked like a shortened class 58 on 2 axle bogies. I've been looking online since this was mentioned further back and couldn't find anything definite. Possibly a cut down 60 though given the possible powerplants were being trialled around the time they came in? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traintresta Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said: I've been looking online since this was mentioned further back and couldn't find anything definite. Possibly a cut down 60 though given the possible powerplants were being trialled around the time they came in? I think there have been several Class 38's, the most recent being a 60 with a powerplant with two fewer cylinders, but otherwise the same in all other respects including overall dimensions. I seem to recall there was a proposed 38 before that but cannot remember the exact format it was going to follow, however, I decided to build one in OO using a class 50 body on a class 37 chassis but gave up and sold it before I painted it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Traintresta said: I think there have been several Class 38's, the most recent being a 60 with a powerplant with two fewer cylinders, but otherwise the same in all other respects including overall dimensions. I seem to recall there was a proposed 38 before that but cannot remember the exact format it was going to follow, however, I decided to build one in OO using a class 50 body on a class 37 chassis but gave up and sold it before I painted it. Historically it's pretty much the other way around. The class 37/9 was a testbed for the then proposed class 38. The class 60 is basically what Brush would have built for the class 38 with two extra cylinders. EDIT: Of course the class 60 originally started out as "let's buy some 59s off the shelf". Only a government program could turn it into what was actually built. Cheers David Edited June 28, 2021 by DavidB-AU 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 18 hours ago, Lu4472ke said: An idea I came up with yesterday, made from bits of GBL Coronation. I guess Stanier caught wind of Gresley's mountain and wanted a piece of the action. I just need to think of a name, number, and livery It's obviously the lead member of the Dreadnought class, so it would be "Dreadnought" and as it's a thuggish heavy-hitter, it would be in a black livery with straw yellow speed whiskers. Number? Dunno! Don't get in it's way! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 15 hours ago, ScottishRailFanatic said: Continuing my role-swapping editing spree... - Small mixed traffic Deltic ‘Demi-Deltic’ BR /English Electric did. It was the Class 23.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_23 Nice idea for refurbishing dimensionally suspect Lima Deltics.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 The Super Shed is pretty similar to the IE class 201 - JT42HCW. If you are 'imagineering' anything from EMD, they've probably already done it. Check the export models. I would have been happy to see this beasty on BR instead of the 59/66 box. The fan housing would need trimming first! The EMD JT26CW-2B In my alternate timeline, BR doesn't bother with any of the home built nonsense and goes straight to EMD for its diesels, using anglicized versions of the various standard export models, GL8, JL18, G16, JT22CW, JT26CW-2B and right up to date with the GT46ACe... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Hroth said: It's obviously the lead member of the Dreadnought class, so it would be "Dreadnought" and as it's a thuggish heavy-hitter, it would be in a black livery with straw yellow speed whiskers. Number? Dunno! Don't get in it's way! I'd paint it black with red lining and number it 666. If you want to add some demonic eyes then I wouldn't object... 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Hroth said: BR /English Electric did. It was the Class 23.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_23 Nice idea for refurbishing dimensionally suspect Lima Deltics.... This is better than a Baby Deltic because it clearly retains the twin engines of its big sisters. If you're going to build excessively sophisticated machines for mundane work you might as well do it properly. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 hours ago, DavidB-AU said: Of course the class 60 originally started out as "let's buy some 59s off the shelf". Only a government program could turn it into what was actually built. Yes, more economical, more comfortable and matching the required specification. More handsome too. Not as simple and reliable though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I’ve been wondering what the impact would be if the U.K. wide gauge had been the same as the Irish gauge. What difference could an extra four and a half inches make? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, scots region said: I’ve been wondering what the impact would be if the U.K. wide gauge had been the same as the Irish gauge. What difference could an extra four and a half inches make? I did read that S.W. Johnson lamented not having the wider gauge as it gave room for bigger bearing surfaces for big ends and eccentrics on the crank axle. It would also permit larger diameter cylinders or more voluminous slide valves for those who liked to put them between the cylinders to keep the steam warm. Edited June 28, 2021 by Compound2632 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: I did read that S.W. Johnson lamented not having the wider gauge as it gave room for bigger bearing surfaces for big ends and eccentrics on the crank axle. It would also permit larger diameter cylinders or more voluminous slide valves for those who liked to put them between the cylinders to keep the steam warm. A GSR 800 at full capacity would be something to watch. And an A4 with 22in cylinders and 275psi would probably get north of 130MPH 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, scots region said: A GSR 800 at full capacity would be something to watch. And an A4 with 22in cylinders and 275psi would probably get north of 130MPH And melt its bearings even sooner! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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