RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2020 I am trying to resist buying a GWR parcels railcar and have looked at the most recent Dapol streamlined offering, which certainly appears amiable. However, I find myself more drawn towards the more angular version, which I know that Lima used to do. My question here is (and apologies if this has already been covered somewhere), has anyone else done a more recent version of the angular railcar (especially the parcels only version), apart from Lima and now Hornby, please? Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Heljan have announced that they are going to do the angular railcars but passenger version only so far. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Might it be possible to use the Lima/Hornby body on a Dapol chassis? I am not happy with the Dapol model because of the high floor they've concealed the works under, but this would not matter with a parcels car. What I really want is number 18, Newport Division spare car in the early 50s, photographed on the Cowbridge branch and possibly may have worked in the Tondu area. It had several inspection panels missing revealing revolving bits of engines, gearboxes, clutches and shafts to the awe stricken gaze of an admiring travelling public; I'm not holding my breath for this in RTR but it's a heck of a challenge, well beyond my modelling capability! Any (Heljan) takers? Edited April 14, 2020 by The Johnster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted April 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2020 Someone used to produce a model of Railcar 18. Might it be MTK? I would also like the opportunity to purchase one of those kits, should it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Westward did 18 in whitemetal. I think someone does the body from Shapeways. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 There is a 3d print available for no 18: https://www.shapeways.com/product/25HXJ2ZQB/o-76-gwr-railcar-no18?optionId=66712531&li=marketplace 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 There was an etched brass pre-pro version I saw at a Scaleforum many years ago - then Lima brought theirs out and the brass one was never released. You could always look for the K's one ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted April 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, giz said: There is a 3d print available for no 18: https://www.shapeways.com/product/25HXJ2ZQB/o-76-gwr-railcar-no18?optionId=66712531&li=marketplace Simon does some pretty desirable stuff on his site. When I get the other work done, I'll get the chequebook going as well..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: Might it be possible to use the Lima/Hornby body on a Dapol chassis? I am not happy with the Dapol model because of the high floor they've concealed the works under, but this would not matter with a parcels car. What I really want is number 18, Newport Division spare car in the early 50s, photographed on the Cowbridge branch and possibly may have worked in the Tondu area. It had several inspection panels missing revealing revolving bits of engines, gearboxes, clutches and shafts to the awe stricken gaze of an admiring travelling public; I'm not holding my breath for this in RTR but it's a heck of a challenge, well beyond my modelling capability! Any (Heljan) takers? What's the point of all the work of trying to shoehorn in a completely different chassis? Where are you going to hide the motor tower/power bogie? Be even more obvious than the Dapol "solution" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2020 Sorry, I changed tack mid post from the Good Captain's question to what I want, which is irrelevant to the the Good Captain's question, and failed to make this clear; mea culpa! The Captain can achieve a 1940 angle cab straight side parcels car, No.34, with current chassis detail and good quiet running (compared to the old Lima chassis anyway), and NEM couplers by putting a Lima/Hornby body on a Dapol chassis, or even a Heljan one if Heljan's runs well and they are not going to produce their own parcels car. The Dapol chassis is a superior performer to the Lima/Hornby one, which is a bit long in the tooth nowadays and blocks daylight through the guard's compartment end windows with it's pancake motor, and has crude moulded drive shaft and bogie detail which the Dapol is much improved on. The Dapol's underfloor mech, while being objectionable to my mind in a passenger car with lighting and big windows, is no problem in a parcels car. No.18 is another story. It was a passenger car built to the 1938 flying banana style but with buffers and drawgear to be able to draw a tail load, which made it suitable for the horsebox traffic on the Lambourne branch, as did it's auto trailer style retractable steps to serve ground level halts. It was the Newport Division spare in the early 50s and filled in for failed auto services in the area. It was geared for branch work with a maximum speed of 40mph. By the early 50s it had lost several of it's inspection covers revealing the workings underneath; it would be a massive challenge to model accurately in this condition, but it would be no use to me in any other condition. I am unaware of any other branch that might have been used in the Tondu area at this period, and in fact am taking a punt on No.18 ever having been, but I know it spent time at Llantrisant. Tondu's auto work did not start until the introduction of the regular interval timetable in the Valleys in 1953. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 The current Hornby version does not have a "pancake" motor. It also has NEM mount couplings on the bogies. Not that it really needs them as they were single running units. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 15, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2020 Thank you all for your kind comments and suggestions. I shall now consider what to do, as this exercise was primarily intended to be one of retail therapy and weathering, rather than extensive kit construction or modification. In the meantime, there is always the option of some of my loco-hauled parcels vans and a locomotive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Do you have something up your sleeve here Captain. Such a train of locomotive & vans sounds rather grand for the Lilliputian Bethesda sidings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted April 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2020 18 hours ago, lofty1966 said: It also has NEM mount couplings on the bogies. Not that it really needs them as they were single running units. Except when they had tail traffic, in this instance an auto coach. https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrls2139.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Except when they had tail traffic, in this instance an auto coach. https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrls2139.htm Then you really should have a screwlink coupler 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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