The Night Mail

[rockershovel]

Regarding US nationality, US bases anywhere in the world are classed as US sovereign territory, and anyone born there is a US national. That includes children born in the nearby hospitals in Cambridge and Hinchingbrooke, who (by a convenient fiction) are registered on-base by the USAF, regardless of anything else the parents might do. 

[PhilJ W]

30 minutes ago, rockershovel said:

Regarding US nationality, US bases anywhere in the world are classed as US sovereign territory, and anyone born there is a US national. That includes children born in the nearby hospitals in Cambridge and Hinchingbrooke, who (by a convenient fiction) are registered on-base by the USAF, regardless of anything else the parents might do. 

That means that when they are adults they can stand for president then?

Edited October 7, 2021 by PhilJ W

[pH]

31 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said:

The road overbridge that provides the viewing point is awfully bouncy when road traffic passes, not something I have ever noticed on bridges elsewhere! 

This one (275 feet above the valley floor) bounces - 

 

https://steveamie.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/IMG_4641-1024x922.jpg

The photo is taken from the track bed of the former Columbia and Western line of the CPR, abandoned through here in 1991.

 

[pH]

6 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

That means that when they are adults they can stand for president then?

Is that a set-up line?

[PhilJ W]

4 minutes ago, pH said:

Is that a set-up line?

No, just asking.

[AndyID]

2 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

No, just asking.

 

The late John McCain was born at a naval air base in Panama.

[AndyID]

There is some debate about what "a natural-born citizen of the US" actually means but it's never really been put to the test for a presidential applicant.

 

I've often thought it's daft that our son, now 41, wouldn't qualify as he's been in the US since he was barely two years old (Not that it's likely he'd be remotely interested.)

 

 

 

Edited October 7, 2021 by AndyID

[jamie92208]

When Arnie was governor  of California  and was pretty popular across the country, there was talk of whether he could run for President. It was then stated thst he couldn't because he'd been born in Austria.  I have a feeling that someone made trouble for Obama, saying that he hadn't been born in the US.

 

Jamie

[bbishop]

Bozo was born in New York.  One can live in hope.  Bill

[AndyID]

5 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

When Arnie was governor  of California  and was pretty popular across the country, there was talk of whether he could run for President. It was then stated thst he couldn't because he'd been born in Austria.  I have a feeling that someone made trouble for Obama, saying that he hadn't been born in the US.

 

Jamie

 

Still goes on. The current VP is under attack. At the risk of stepping across the political line it's just thinly-veiled racism.

 

[pH]

It’s why Ted Cruz can’t run for president - he was born in Canada - in Calgary, Alberta.

[rockershovel]

18 minutes ago, AndyID said:

 

Still goes on. The current VP is under attack. At the risk of stepping across the political line it's just thinly-veiled racism.

 

Not at all. The USA was, for many years concerned with the building of a modern nation from widely disparate origins, many of whom fled there from the various troubles of the Old World. It was central to their national image that their leader be American, born and bred, a symbol of their hopes for the future. It was also central to their long-standing policy of isolationism that their President represented them  and no one else, and be so perceived. It is a wholly American policy, rooted in what the are as a nation, and how they got there. 

[AndyID]

Time to bring in the green tomatoes. Almost down to freezing overnight now.

[AndyID]

17 minutes ago, rockershovel said:

Not at all. The USA was, for many years concerned with the building of a modern nation from widely disparate origins, many of whom fled there from the various troubles of the Old World. It was central to their national image that their leader be American, born and bred, a symbol of their hopes for the future. It was also central to their long-standing policy of isolationism that their President represented them  and no one else, and be so perceived. It is a wholly American policy, rooted in what the are as a nation, and how they got there. 

 

Yes, I am fully aware of the original reasons and I'm going to leave it at that.

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, bbishop said:

Bozo was born in New York.  One can live in hope.  Bill

 

Hope that we might be able to pass him on to the USA as president?

 

Bonar Law was a Canadian, or would have been if Canada had existed at the time he was born; it did by the time he left for Scotland at the age of 12.

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, rockershovel said:

It is a wholly American policy, rooted in what the are as a nation, and how they got there. 

 

Well, rooted in what some of them are and how some of them got there. The ancestors of many arrived involuntarily.

[JohnDMJ]

 

10 hours ago, Tony_S said:

I needed a PCR test 3 days before my recent colonoscopy. The hospital told me I didn’t need to go up the hospital in Whitechapel for the PCR just to make an appointment online for a local drive or walk in centre using the option on the website ‘I have been asked by a medical practitioner to get a test’.  I took my negative result printout and the phone text with me but the hospital knew the result somehow, probably from my NHS number. So it would appear that the system is more “joined up” and perhaps the Telford admin don’t know this. Aditi’s sister is having a hospital procedure next week (in London). She was just told arrange a PCR test at a nearby centre too. 
Tony

 

For my colonoscopy, I had to attend a 'drive-thru'

 

PCR TEST

 

at a portacabin adjacent to the endoscopy unit. This allowed them to directly issue the preparatory potions without the cost of postage to me! Cunning!!

Edited October 7, 2021 by JohnDMJ

[AndyID]

1 minute ago, JohnDMJ said:

 

 

For my colonoscopy, I had to attend a 'drive-thru' at a portacabin adjacent to the endoscopy unit.

 

A drive-thru colonoscopy eh?! That's pretty impressive

[AndyID]

6 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said:

 

 

This allowed them to directly issue the preparatory potions without the cost of postage to me! Cunning!!

 

I imagine you had to drive home pretty quickly

 

(I'm sorry. My comments are quite inappropriate but I couldn't resist.)

[Happy Hippo]

13 minutes ago, AndyID said:

 

A drive-thru colonoscopy eh?! That's pretty impressive

I had a vision of all the recipients lying nose to tail and a mobile camera taking a long run through a series of tunnels.

 

Who wants to be first?

 

Me! No me! I'll do it, Why not me?  It should be me! I have to collect the kids from school!  Never mind that, I also have an appointment with ENT, could you do them both at once?.........

[Tony_S]

25 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said:

This allowed them to directly issue the preparatory potions without the cost of postage to me! Cunning!!

My last appointment was at short notice so the hospital sent my medication by courier. Not only was it a courier, it was a motorbike courier. 

[JohnDMJ]

 

24 minutes ago, AndyID said:

 

I imagine you had to drive home pretty quickly

 

(I'm sorry. My comments are quite inappropriate but I couldn't resist.)

 

Don't blame you; I'd have done the same! Apology unnecessary!

[AndyID]

36 minutes ago, Tony_S said:

My last appointment was at short notice so the hospital sent my medication by courier. Not only was it a courier, it was a motorbike courier. 

 

Are you a straight-man? I'm sure there's a really bad bathroom joke there but I better stop

[PhilJ W]

4 hours ago, bbishop said:

Bozo was born in New York.  One can live in hope.  Bill

I understand that he's given up his American citizenship. Something to do with not paying American income tax.

[simontaylor484]

23 hours ago, coastalview said:

I would love to have come into the Grand Harbour on a cruise ship it must look amazing 

I have a copy of a photo of HMS Impulsive (my Grandads first ship an I class destroyer) entering the Grand Harbour at Valletta it does look really impressive.