Liam_uk Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Laid the curve from the exchange yard to the Y junction. I've also laid the back line with the industry spur. The spur isn't secured yet as I don't know full where it is going till I get the building, I am thinking a lot bashed pikestuff building. This industry will be a manufacturing company with 3 different cars coming, a steel coil car for raw material, a gondola for scrap metal and box car for finished product. The bottom line has also been laid to the staging area, with the spur again sat loose. This industry will be a corn syrup distributor. I saw the idea on another layout on YouTube. I was originally thinking 2 spots but now I'm just thinking 1 car at a time. Again this will be another pikestuff building. I now need to order the buildings for the spurs, and come up with a less crowded plan for the 17ft run on the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Liam_uk said: Laid the curve from the exchange yard to the Y junction. I've also laid the back line with the industry spur. The spur isn't secured yet as I don't know full where it is going till I get the building, I am thinking a lot bashed pikestuff building. This industry will be a manufacturing company with 3 different cars coming, a steel coil car for raw material, a gondola for scrap metal and box car for finished product. The bottom line has also been laid to the staging area, with the spur again sat loose. This industry will be a corn syrup distributor. I saw the idea on another layout on YouTube. I was originally thinking 2 spots but now I'm just thinking 1 car at a time. Again this will be another pikestuff building. I now need to order the buildings for the spurs, and come up with a less crowded plan for the 17ft run on the other side I like the way this comes across as spacious and doesn’t seem ‘squashed in’ - the industry serving the rear spur will presumably use background buildings to hide the narrow space between the track and the backscene (which is how I read the plans on the first page). I was trying to guess if the track is Code 75 or Code 100 (it looks like UK Peco)? Just wondered, Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Keith Addenbrooke said: I was trying to guess if the track is Code 75 or Code 100 (it looks like UK Peco)? Just wondered, Keith. Hi Keith, it is all Code 75 as this is what I have most of and will use on the upper deck so thought I might as well use that for the american layout too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Progress has been slow, a - because Ive been waiting on buildings to mock up to fix the 2 spurs on the first board, and b - Ive been trying to come up with a less cramped version of the original plan. I have come up with this plan: The line will curve round a 3 to 4ft scenic section before hitting the run round points. The first industry will be a lumber yard with 2 car spots. Along the back will be a non rail served warehouse (red). The manufacturer building will be 1 car spot (a hopper), which will be for plastic beads to manufacture parts. I might also have a box car spot (swapping the hopper for the box car) for finished product. The Distributor will have 2 car spots, these will be box cars. The small truck yard scene at the side will be for the last distribution by road. The top left I have put in a grain silo. Mainly as I have seen them and like the look of them and it would fill the area nicely. Although Im not sure if it would look out of place with the industrial buildings. The lower left spur I have put a cement distributor. It will have 2 car spots. I have order the Walthers Medusa Cement building for this already. The final spur is as yet undecided. I am in 2 minds at the moment. either a - another industry OR b - move the cement distributor to that spur and remove the "planned" cement spur, and just have a scenic section there. As always any ideas, suggestions or feedback welcomed.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium z4driver Posted February 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) As a suggestion for the final spur, you could model a transload facility. Minimum buildings, just an office, and it can take virtually any freight car. https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/33834#comment-346108 http://cs.trains.com/mrr/m/mrr-layouts/2291371.aspx Edited February 2, 2021 by z4driver 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Is that a double slip at the left-hand end of the run-round? Highly unlikely in an American industrial park setting. Also your switching lead for the distribution warehouse & lumber yard is very short, especially as it's the longest spur. That spur needs to be fed from the right-hand end really. Finally grain silo facilities usually push cars through the loading shed; they are not usually sited right at the end of a spur. Just my 2p-worth.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I agree with Jordan (F-unit mad) regarding the double slip. Also, I would be inclined to reverse the direction of the Lumber yard and Distributor/Manufacturer spurs. This would enable the main to be used as a switching lead. A more prototypical arrangement. I would also reverse the direction of the bottom right hand spur and use it as a Transload/Team Track. Hope this helps. Mal 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Great stuff. Thank you for the feedback. I was unsure on the double slip as I only put it there as several points together looked very busy. I'll do some adjustments tonight and then post the rehash! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Sooooo....... I had a relook and rethink. I've swapped round the Distribution/Manufacturer Spur. I've also swapped the grain silo spur and made it the lumber yard spur. I've also moved the cement distributor to the spare gap around the curve (hiding it behind the building). Taking ideas on board I've taken the 2 spurs on the bottom and made one longer spur for a Transload facility. Hopefully it is a bit more prototypical as well as having operational interest. It gives 7 or 8 spots for the industries and then the Transload facility. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I like that! Much better. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Just now, F-UnitMad said: I like that! Much better. Thank you, and thank you for the feedback and information. It has really helped in planning and learning the american "scene". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Liam_uk said: Ive been trying to come up with a less cramped version of the original plan. That's what you have now achieved, albeit at the expense of the grain silos. But maybe they can go elsewhere on the layout. Edit; don't forget that cement, being a heavier product than grain, travels in shorter covered hoppers. You may well have more than 2 spots available on the cement works spur. Cement hoppers are often 2-bay, rather than 3- or 4-bay like grain hoppers. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=519983 Edited February 2, 2021 by F-UnitMad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: That's what you have now achieved, albeit at the expense of the grain silos. But maybe they can go elsewhere on the layout. Cheers. I don't think ill have anywhere for it to go as the three sides are now sorted, well 2 are laid and 1 is planned. Ill just have to do without it . My grain hoppers will have to be used in the exchange yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 14 hours ago, Liam_uk said: Sooooo....... I had a relook and rethink. I've swapped round the Distribution/Manufacturer Spur. I've also swapped the grain silo spur and made it the lumber yard spur. I've also moved the cement distributor to the spare gap around the curve (hiding it behind the building). Taking ideas on board I've taken the 2 spurs on the bottom and made one longer spur for a Transload facility. Hopefully it is a bit more prototypical as well as having operational interest. It gives 7 or 8 spots for the industries and then the Transload facility. That looks much better and more prototypical. It really looks like a modern industrial park and would be fun to switch. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 unload your grain at the Transload spur 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 23 hours ago, z4driver said: As a suggestion for the final spur, you could model a transload facility. Minimum buildings, just an office, and it can take virtually any freight car. https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/33834#comment-346108 http://cs.trains.com/mrr/m/mrr-layouts/2291371.aspx Just lifting one of the photos within that first link.... Grain cars don't need a big silo facility to appear on a layout. This simple conveyor is a common arrangement for unloading. This can be on the Team Track. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: Just lifting one of the photos within that first link.... Grain cars don't need a big silo facility to appear on a layout. This simple conveyor is a common arrangement for unloading. This can be on the Team Track. Ive had a look through the links and some really good inspiration. Looks like I'll be able to set it up for several different commodities. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Definitely an improvement with the second plan. Plus it will give you plenty of scope for scenery details. :) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Good looking layout Liam. Great start. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 First two buildings have arrived: The Walthers cement will go in front of the curve to the next bit of track laying, And the pikestuff engine shed will be made into the terminal for corn syrup on the other side that has already been laid.. I have ordered another building for the far side but it is currently somewhere between here and America. I couldn't believe how large the Walthers box actually is! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Robatron86 said: Good looking layout Liam. Great start. Thank you. Had alot of help from the people of this forum, putting up with my daft questions etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 There are shops that sell Walthers kits in this country! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, long island jack said: There are shops that sell Walthers kits in this country! Yes I know. I ordered 3 building kits from Kent Garden Railway, however they contacted to say one was out of stock and would I mind waiting whilst they ordered one from the supplier..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Ok, it just sounded as if you were waiting for a building coming from America, not a UK shop 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_uk Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, long island jack said: Ok, it just sounded as if you were waiting for a building coming from America, not a UK shop Yes, it probably could have been worded betterer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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