Ex-LMS BG at Great Yarmouth in 1972?

[Trevellan]

Since lockdown last year I have been making a determined effort to catalogue my extensive photographic collection. Unfortunately, in times past I was rather lax at recording information and the picture below is one example. I'm 90% certain it was taken at Great Yarmouth in May 1972. The coach appears to be an ex-LMS 50ft BG and carries the number IU 041112. I'm assuming the IU stands for Internal User. The sign on the coach advertises portable radios for hire. Other shots on this film were taken at the model village, but I have no recollection of how or why I stumbled across this coach.

 

It's a long shot, but does anybody know of this vehicle and its story? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Wickham Green too]

Didn't last long enough to get listed in Platform 5's Departmental Coaching Stock so can't be specific about its function - when not hiring out portable radios. It's one of the 'All Steel' brakes from various builders 1926-30.

[montyburns56]

I don't have any info, but I found these pics on Flickr from 1972 & 1976.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wickham Green too]

Interesting that it's kept the 'G's as well as the 'B's !

[great central]

Looks to be on the dockside, the houses in the background of the colour shot look familiar. I'm there again Saturday into Sunday so I'll see if I can tie the location down a bit more. No idea what it would be doing there I'm afraid. There's several scrapyards in. the area now, maybe they were there then as well?

[beast66606]

17 minutes ago, great central said:

Looks to be on the dockside, the houses in the background of the colour shot look familiar. I'm there again Saturday into Sunday so I'll see if I can tie the location down a bit more. No idea what it would be doing there I'm afraid. There's several scrapyards in. the area now, maybe they were there then as well?

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.6025412,1.7266967,3a,75y,163.49h,80.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slUbefLh6eBLpO08KVUdaPg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

Around the word "post" on the old map

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=52.60203&lon=1.72691&layers=168&right=BingHyb

Edited May 25, 2021 by beast66606

[great central]

Pretty much where I thought, now the car park where they usually hold the maritime festival.

[beast66606]

1 minute ago, great central said:

Pretty much where I thought, now the car park where they usually hold the maritime festival.

 

I cheated on the "now" map as the photographer on Flickr gives the link ! - although I found background before I realised there was a link, South Quay Road.

[Trevellan]

11 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

I don't have any info, but I found these pics on Flickr from 1972 & 1976.

 

 

Many thanks for finding these. I did do an online search, but found nothing relevant. I suspect a specialist study group such as the LMS Society might have such information. However, this is just one image among thousands to be checked and indexed.

 

10 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Interesting that it's kept the 'G's as well as the 'B's !

 

Indeed. In my 1972 shot the coach looks to be in generally good and complete condition, although it appeared to be in a somewhat vulnerable spot judging by the paraphernalia around it.

 

8 hours ago, great central said:

Looks to be on the dockside, the houses in the background of the colour shot look familiar. I'm there again Saturday into Sunday so I'll see if I can tie the location down a bit more. No idea what it would be doing there I'm afraid. There's several scrapyards in. the area now, maybe they were there then as well?

 

Thanks. I can't recall how I got there, but even 50 years ago I was drawn like a magnet to interesting railway artefacts.

 

8 hours ago, beast66606 said:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.6025412,1.7266967,3a,75y,163.49h,80.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slUbefLh6eBLpO08KVUdaPg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

Around the word "post" on the old map

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=52.60203&lon=1.72691&layers=168&right=BingHyb

 

Thanks Dave. I guessed a lot would have changed in almost half a century!

 

[Wickham Green too]

1 hour ago, Trevellan said:

...... Indeed. In my 1972 shot the coach looks to be in generally good and complete condition,  ........

Just had another squint at Jenkinson & Essery and it seems that the first of these vans was withdrawn in 1966 and there were a few 'extant' in '68 when the list was compiled ..... so it hadn't been out of traffic for ages.

[great central]

2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Just had another squint at Jenkinson & Essery and it seems that the first of these vans was withdrawn in 1966 and there were a few 'extant' in '68 when the list was compiled ..... so it hadn't been out of traffic for ages.

 

There were a couple parked at Grantham for years by the pway buildings. Both in faded rail blue I think but the memory can play tricks!

[Wickham Green too]

Depends how faded you remember them as : Internal users 041844/5 photographed 8/7/90 : - 

[Fat Controller]

3 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Just had another squint at Jenkinson & Essery and it seems that the first of these vans was withdrawn in 1966 and there were a few 'extant' in '68 when the list was compiled ..... so it hadn't been out of traffic for ages.

Examples would survive in revenue service until the end of BR's Collection and Delivery Parcels service at the end of the 1970s; by then, the guard's equipment had been removed from most, along with the gangways, so they were simply bogie PMVs.

[Wickham Green too]

Not sure any 'All Steels' lasted that long ..........