J.M Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hi there, Does Someone know what happened to all Steam Locomotives scrapped at eastleight? If so can you please Tell me? I realy want to find out what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted December 30, 2021 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2021 Once again you posted it in the wrong subforum - now moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted December 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2021 30 seconds of time and a quick Google search produces this - how tricky was that! https://www.railuk.info/steam/getscrap.php?id=54 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.M Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, 08221 said: 30 seconds of time and a quick Google search produces this - how tricky was that! https://www.railuk.info/steam/getscrap.php?id=54 Yes..., But i was ask what happened to the Locomotives. Not wich were scrapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted December 30, 2021 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, J.M said: Yes..., But i was ask what happened to the Locomotives. Not wich were scrapped They were scrapped, or preserved. You've got yourself a dire reception within a few hours. Please stop wasting people's time when you can go and do some research yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 hours ago, J.M said: Hi there, Does Someone know what happened to all Steam Locomotives scrapped at Eastleigh? If so can you please Tell me? I really want to find out what happened. Like others, I don't understand your question. If a steam locomotive is scrapped, anything of value that could potentially be sold would be removed and what is left will have been cut up on site and crushed in the same way as scrap dealers crush cars on a regular basis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 There were no locomotives scrapped at Eastleigh. Locomotives withdrawn from service there were put out to tender for acquistion by scrap dealers all over the country, and delivered to them by rail for cutting up, and the metals weighed and sold to steelworks to be melted down and re-cast into ingots of new steel. Some of Eastleigh's locos, along with others from the Southern Region, went to Woodham's scrapyard at Barry, and because locomotives were more work to scrap than the numerous wagons he also bought from BR, and he had the space to keep them, he kept them as a reserve to keep his men employed and his business going if the supply of wagons dried up, but it never really did. This was unusual and only possible because of the space he had available, six long sidings rented from BR. At other scrapyards, locos were cut up as soon as they arrived in order to make room for more. The result was that by the early 70s Woodham's had the largest collection of main line steam locomotives in the country, about 250 of them, and as this was the time that the preservation movement was establishing itself, a great many of the locomotives used on main line railtours and heritage railways were acquired from Dai Woodham, who sold them at scrap value by weight. To sum up, any locomotive that was scrapped ceased to exist within a very few days of arriving at the scrapyard, They were cut up with oxy-acetylene torches and reduced to small lumps of metal that were weighed and delivered to steelworks for melting down into new steel. At Woodham's, the locos were not cut up, or at least only a fairly small number were, and remained extant in a scrapped condition for many years; eventually, all that were not cut up were bought for preservation or as parts donors for preservation projects. I hope this clarifies the matter for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Dungrange said: Like others, I don't understand your question. If a steam locomotive is scrapped, anything of value that could potentially be sold would be removed and what is left will have been cut up on site and crushed in the same way as scrap dealers crush cars on a regular basis. A steam locomotive crusher would be an impressive piece of engineering. As explained by The Johnster the locos that were scrapped would have been cut up into small lumps rather than being crushed. Cheers Darius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2021 Perhaps the original question meant what happened to all the locos that were "withdrawn" there rather than scrapped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, The Johnster said: There were no locomotives scrapped at Eastleigh. Locomotives withdrawn from service there were put out to tender for acquisition by scrap dealers all over the country, and delivered to them by rail for cutting up, and the metals weighed and sold to steelworks to be melted down and re-cast into ingots of new steel. Some of Eastleigh's locos, along with others from the Southern Region, went to Woodham's scrapyard at Barry, and because locomotives were more work to scrap than the numerous wagons he also bought from BR, and he had the space to keep them, he kept them as a reserve to keep his men employed and his business going if the supply of wagons dried up, but it never really did. This may have been true at the end of steam on the Southern, when the loco depots were cleared of their allocations, but Eastleigh Works scrapped hundreds of locos in its lifetime as this photo from the Verrall collections suggests. Bradley (RCTS books) notes that the majority of the stylish LBSC K Class 2-6-0's met their untimely end at Eastleigh in 1963, after bulk withdrawal of the class at the end of 1962, for accountancy reasons, along with many other classes, including Bulleid Q1 locos https://www.whatreallyhappenedtosteam.co.uk/pdf/WRHTS-Railway-Magazine-article-November-2009.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, J.M said: Hi there, Does Someone know what happened to all Steam Locomotives scrapped at eastleight? If so can you please Tell me? I realy want to find out what happened. Your question is extremely 'non-specific' or lacks accuracy, and as such members are unable to accurately provide the information you seek.. If they were 'scrapped' at Eastleigh, then they were cut up and reduced to manageable pieces, then those pieces were most likely sold - albeit, some non-ferrous parts may have been put to one side, and reused. . Other withdrawn locomotives stored at Eastleigh were sold for scrap, and moved on to private scrapyards, mainly (but not solely) in South Wales where they were seen off, or some later resold and preserved.. . If you want to find out details of individual locomotives, try the What Really Happened to Steam / Engine Shed Society website(s). Edited December 31, 2021 by br2975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.M Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Hal Nail said: Perhaps the original question meant what happened to all the locos that were "withdrawn" there rather than scrapped? This is what i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) I've got the Ian Allen book on Eastleigh (not to hand tho) which has some photos of what look like withdrawn locos but include the Beattie Well tank, which went back to Wadebridge after the reported date. I don't know how long it took to look shabby sat outside. Edited January 25, 2022 by Hal Nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 hours ago, The Johnster said: There were no locomotives scrapped at Eastleigh. Not correct - see this picture as one example. https://railphotoprints.uk/p455176416/e5848fbb3 Post #3 from 80221 also lists large numbers of locos scrapped at Eastleigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, J.M said: This is what i mean Then the answer is relatively simple although it will mean you having to do some research to find it. The best bets are the various links which have already been given in this thread but the other way is to start from the opposite end and assemble for yourself a list of preserved ex SR locos (and BR Standards). Having done that you can use the various references given above to see if they were withdrawn at Eastleigh logically starting with Southern Region locos as most of them were probably withdrawn by the SR and some might have been withdrawn at Eastleigh. By far the easiest way to tackle it is from current lists of preserved/under restoration etc locos then find out where they were withdrawn from. But this raises another question where you need to be sure of what you are asking. Do you want to know about locos which were taken to Eastleigh and withdrawn/condemned there, or are you asking about locos which were taken to Eastleigh after being condemned elsewhere and then sold, or are you asking about locos withdrawn from Eastleigh shed and disposed of from there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 . They certainly were scrapped at Eastleigh. Film was expensive (for a lad at school) but here are 2 examples I took, there were a large number of locos being scrapped at the time I was there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.M Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 31/12/2021 at 20:36, stewartingram said: . They certainly were scrapped at Eastleigh. Film was expensive (for a lad at school) but here are 2 examples I took, there were a large number of locos being scrapped at the time I was there. You was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 That's how I took the photos..... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Hi, I know some Bulleid Light Pacific’s and two Merchant Navy’s (35004 and 35020) were cut up at Eastleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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