33C Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Avert your eyes, Rivet Counters! Have you got a tatty, old Triang Princess that is lurking in the spares box or in the back of the MPD? Don't have £250 spare? Try this. It can be as detailed as you want to make it but i've got this build as simple as possible. First, take the Loco and an old Triang Flying Scotsman tender. Strip chassis and reduce the flanges with 2 strokes of a coarse file, polish and dress with wet/dry sanding block, wash in hot, soapy water and oil axles. The motor is cleaned, oiled and laid aside. Wheels will not bump along the sleepers now! Edited June 18, 2022 by 33C add letter 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Next, take the body and remove top half of smokebox to slope shown and cut down the cab. File the firebox sides down to a more rounded shape. The front cylinder covers can be removed if you want. (mine was damaged here, as they all are!). I then use a template(s) to mark around on a sheet of thin plasticard, 20 or 30 thou. then cover the smokebox and body as shown. Put a slight crease down the centre line for the "hump" of the casing. Measurements are given for the Princess body. Middle straight edge will line up with the Princess running boards both sides so attach one side first and then fold over. Try with a cereal pack card template first to see the dynamics. Edited June 19, 2022 by 33C added detail 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 Cut out the cab sides/roof and attach in place. Any overhang can be made good. Glue on boiler bands, roof vents, beading etc, whatever you want. Take the pony truck and extend the frames as shown, add new springs and a false set of rear carrying wheels are glued in place so they are just clear of the rail and allow it to negotiate train set curves! 16 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 You know, I LIKE this. Proper old-fashioned modelling. Great stuff 😎 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Re-use your buffers and add a front handrail from wire. Cut a piece of pen tube, at the slope, for the chimney and wrap a piece of thin card around it in a vee. Glue to the original position above the body mounting screw hole and fill the vee with plasticine. The original screw can then be used as before. Handrails can be wire held on with split pins made from sheet tin or thin strips of plastic glued straight on like Triang did! Add the smokebox inspection hatch from card. Add a wire on the tender drag box, about 1" long and bend 4mm from the end, into an L to couple onto the original tender pin hole on the pony. Affix a new cab floor from plasticard or wood and fashion a new boiler backhead, if you want. Paint the locomotive body, tender frames and body, cylinder block, pony and bogie frames, chassis and all wheels (driving wheel spokes) in Humbrol Satin 164, (battleship grey). Boiler bands silver and cab roof, smokebox front and corridor connection black. You can use HMRS transfers or Letraset for the letters and numbers. I painted the gold letters, silver. Edited May 8, 2023 by 33C added detail 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 33C Posted June 18, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2022 This is what you should end up with. Real coal in the tender and glazed cab windows, painted spokes and all. Cost to me, broken,tenderless, Princess, from bootsale, £3, tender from local show,£2, Plasticard and paint, Amazon, £3.65, lump of coal, laying in yard, free. What are you sitting there for...... 15 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 33C Posted June 18, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2022 It's so quick and easy, i made two! My original one from a damaged "Flying Scotsman" is also pictured! (pic.2.) 16 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2022 Ah! Back in the day when I made a Spamcam using the very same chassis with a Kitmaster Spamcan body. Usefully mine was a Victoria (no valve gear) which suited the Bulleid loco better. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, melmerby said: Ah! Back in the day when I made a Spamcam using the very same chassis with a Kitmaster Spamcan body. Usefully mine was a Victoria (no valve gear) which suited the Bulleid loco better. Yes, another easy way to get a nice loco. I made one again but this time i filled all the wheels with Isopon and sanded smooth. A teardrop tampo made from a pencil eraser provided the detail! Pulled one of the slide bars out as well... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Is there nothing the Triang Princess can be turned in to?....🤔 Great work, right up my street..... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Ben Alder said: Is there nothing the Triang Princess can be turned in to?....🤔 Great work, right up my street..... Check out my thread "What to do with Tri-ang princesses......."🤪 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Many years ago when I was about 14 I turned a Princess into what looked like a fairly convincing Black 5. But of course as sods law would have it 6 months after finishing the Hornby black 5 came out and showed all its deficiencies. I bought a new black 5 and mine ended up in the spares bin. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) On 19/06/2022 at 12:31, cypherman said: Many years ago when I was about 14 I turned a Princess into what looked like a fairly convincing Black 5. But of course as sods law would have it 6 months after finishing the Hornby black 5 came out and showed all its deficiencies. I bought a new black 5 and mine ended up in the spares bin. I remember someone made an unrebuilt Patriot from a Princess, I think in the RM, and it was quite a neat job. Another must do, one day! Edited June 24, 2022 by 33C added detail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tofufi Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Brilliant work. I've a similar model of 10000 using the Flying Scotsman chassis :) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Tofufi said: Brilliant work. I've a similar model of 10000 using the Flying Scotsman chassis :) Budget modelling! Any pictures? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Very nice! I love these old school projects that are spiritually from a time when RTR simply wasn't an option. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 13/07/2022 at 19:33, Jim Martin said: Very nice! I love these old school projects that are spiritually from a time when RTR simply wasn't an option. That's me alright, old skool... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 31, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 19/06/2022 at 07:30, 33C said: It's so quick and easy, i made two! My original one from a damaged "Flying Scotsman" is also pictured! (pic.2.) Wow, now that is fantastic ingenuity and modelling. Well done that man! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 On 31/01/2023 at 10:25, Hilux5972 said: Wow, now that is fantastic ingenuity and modelling. Well done that man! Thanks, just trying to show you don't need a lot of skill or money to make something useful and different from an everyday loco that may be left in the spares box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 On 19/06/2022 at 14:14, 33C said: I remember someone made an unrebuilt Patriot from a Princess, Found it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson044 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I've not seen this thread before. This is real railway modelling! Wonderful stuff. Please keep up the good work! Ally Pally coming up- the MRC stand usually have some Triang Princesses going for a song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Johnson044 said: I've not seen this thread before. This is real railway modelling! Wonderful stuff. Please keep up the good work! Ally Pally coming up- the MRC stand usually have some Triang Princesses going for a song. Grab them! Model! Bask! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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