Bin liner containerised brake van

[Bristol_Rich]

Hi all…

 

This video popped up in my recommendations and in the first min the bin liner brake van caught my eye… 

 

 

I know in the past the principle was trialed and an example exists in the NRM, but I always thought the idea never took on with the advancement of brake technology.

 

I'm presuming this example is to aid propelling moves?  Does anyone have any further details? 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Bristol_Rich

[montyburns56]

If the question is what is the world's worst guard duty, the answer is...

[Michael Hodgson]

I wasn't awaare of that one.

[keefer]

Presumably the guard (if provided) would be in the back cab of the loco and this 'van' is only to provide (as the OP suggests) for a propelling move.

Seems to be some sort of linkage/piping, maybe connecting to the brake pipe, to provide for basic 'emergency' control of the brakes?

 

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by keefer

[keefer]

By AndrewHAs on Flickr

"FCA 610134 in the consist of 6C97 1157 Avonmouth to Newport Alexandra Dock Junction Yard , had this rather strange 20 foot container there-on. I am only guessing but I assume this is to provide ''accommodation '' for a travelling shunter on a propelling move at Avonmouth Docks Yards . If anyone knows the definite answer I would be pleased to hear it.

The container looks similar to the ones used a few years ago now when the Bin-Liner Rubbish Trains used to run from Cricklewood R T S in London to Stewartby, Forders Sidings Landfill site in Bedfordshire and a ''Travelling-Shunter'' was required for a propelling move at Forders Siding."

 

Also http://www.hondawanderer.com/60044_Kempston_1996.htm

Edited November 26, 2022 by keefer

[Stretch37266]

Yes the container was used by the shunter for the propelling move from Avonmouth to Chittening.

I believe its the same box now used from East Usk to Birdport. The air pipe connects to the emergency brake valve and a warning horn.

Cheers

Paul

[Michael Hodgson]

Shouldn't be too difficult to knock up into a model

[The Johnster]

Probably better as a brake van than those horrible fibreglass abominations used on early Freightliner trains.  The NRM has one I believe…

[37114]

If I recall correctly, it was also used for propelling to the refuse sidings on the old Avon Street branch to Kingsland Road as well. 

 

[eastglosmog]

A modern version of a GWR Toad?  I thought they were banned because there was only one exit!

[Johann Marsbar]

I managed to get a photo of it ( was there more than one ? ) at Bedford during 1998.....

 

[Wheatley]

I'd suggest the travelling shunter went by van and met the train there, rather than travelling any distance in that. 

[Michael Hodgson]

7 hours ago, Wheatley said:

I'd suggest the travelling shunter went by van and met the train there, rather than travelling any distance in that. 

I can't imagine the unions letting him travel any distance in that.

Rear cab of the loco?

[Simon Bendall]

15 hours ago, Johann Marsbar said:

I managed to get a photo of it ( was there more than one ? ) at Bedford during 1998.....

 

There were two IIRC.

[Wickham Green too]

On 27/11/2022 at 07:47, eastglosmog said:

A modern version of a GWR Toad?  I thought they were banned because there was only one exit!

I doubt if the guy ever went into the 'van' - just stayed by the brake valve on the veranda ( which has two exits ) !