SteveM666 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, Reorte said: Been a while since Kyalami last hosted a Grand Prix, would it be possible to change it to current standards? I believe F1 are more likely to want a race on the streets of Cape Town in line with their policy of having ‘destination’ events. See also, Madrid, Miami, Las Vegas, Baku, Abu Dhabi, Monaco. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted December 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2023 13 hours ago, SteveM666 said: Having experienced a few street shows in Africa a rally event may be more appropriate -Safari Rally not Dakar. After a holiday in East Africa, my dad asked “which side of the road do they drive on?” The answer was a mix of “any bl@@dy side they like and the one with fewest potholes”. Sounds like Mansfield ...... 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted December 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, SteveM666 said: I believe F1 are more likely to want a race on the streets of Cape Town in line with their policy of having ‘destination’ events. See also, Madrid, Miami, Las Vegas, Baku, Abu Dhabi, Monaco. Sadly true. I'll give Monaco a pass simply because of historical precedent (although it would be mad to suggest a race there now if there never had been one), but the rest, urgh. Well, Baku occasionally throws up something interesting, and I really rather like the utter craziness of the castle section. But generally I do find them all pretty much lacking, although to be fair I mostly lost interest in F1 long before this trend started. If they want races to be events there needs to be fewer races too IMO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, RedgateModels said: Sounds like Mansfield ...... and what's wrong with Mansfield, they held a motor race in Birmingham!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Informant Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hobby said: and what's wrong with Mansfield, they held a motor race in Birmingham!! The fondly remembered Birmingham Super Prix. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted December 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, Invicta Informant said: The fondly remembered Birmingham Super Prix. It was that long ago?! Thanks for making me feel old! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, Invicta Informant said: The fondly remembered Birmingham Super Prix. A Birmingham Grand Prix based around the Gravelly Hill Interchange would be most entertaining.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Junction,_Birmingham 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, Hroth said: A Birmingham Grand Prix based around the Gravelly Hill Interchange would be most entertaining.... Even more so if the drivers had to adhere to the lane speed restrictions on the gantries which as per the real thing randomly switch between national speed limit and 40 mph with a 5 second penalty for each breach. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) I see Horner got a CBE for outstanding moaning throughout the season... Or was it for something else?! ;) At least Ron's knighthood was justified... Edited December 30, 2023 by Hobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hobby said: I see Horner got a CBE for outstanding moaning throughout the season... Constant Bleeting Egotist Edited December 30, 2023 by didcot 2 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Oh well, only another day and someone can bravely step foward and inaugurate "Formula 1 - 2024".... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Hobby said: I see Horner got a CBE for outstanding moaning throughout the season... Or was it for something else?! ;) At least Ron's knighthood was justified... We need to be mindful that what we see in the media does not reflect what really goes on. All team principals without exception fight for any advantage they can get for their team, whether this is explaining their engineers' unique 'interpretation' to a regulation, trying to get their opponents caught out for an infringement or making a radio call to the stewards. If they were not pushing in all areas, they would not be doing their job properly. We only usually hear about the top 2 teams because the media have always liked to stir things between them & this has not changed. Many of the quotes we see doing the rounds are also from months or even years ago but, because we see them every day, many seem to think that those concerned are seeking media attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 And Sir Ron Dennis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Mr Horner’s award seems to have been overlooked by the mainstream media. Nothing on the BBC website, although they did have the sad news that Indy 500 winner and former McLaren sporting director Gil de Ferran has died at 56 following a heart attack. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: We need to be mindful that what we see in the media does not reflect what really goes on. All team principals without exception fight for any advantage they can get for their team, whether this is explaining their engineers' unique 'interpretation' to a regulation, trying to get their opponents caught out for an infringement or making a radio call to the stewards. If they were not pushing in all areas, they would not be doing their job properly. We only usually hear about the top 2 teams because the media have always liked to stir things between them & this has not changed. Many of the quotes we see doing the rounds are also from months or even years ago but, because we see them every day, many seem to think that those concerned are seeking media attention. I accept what you say in the first paragraph to some extent, but, as an example, compare and contrast interviews with Horner and Wolff. Wolff always seems to come across as reasonable and thoughtful, even when his driver has been done down, Horner though is a constant moaner, and I'm not talking about prepared interviews but the ones we've seen live after the races which show the true side of a person. Can you really imagine Horner as being as restrained as Wolff was after the debacle in 2021, I certainly can't. I feel you are trying to defend the impossible. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I think it's important to take personal bias out of the equation. I fully agree in not liking Horner, for the same reasons as you state @Hobby However, not liking someone isn't a reason for them to not be recognised for the work they do or what they have achieved. Red Bull fans will be over the moon with the news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 30/12/2023 at 14:09, Hobby said: I see Horner got a CBE for outstanding moaning throughout the season... Or was it for something else?! ;) Puts him in good company? (Who is more toxic - Horner or Vennells?) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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