Hello from the Netherlands!

[Treinenliefde]

Hello there, 

 

After lurking on RMweb for probably about 2 years or so I decided to make an account. I'm a relatively young modeller from the Netherlands (21 years old), with a big interest in the British railway scene, having grown up with a certain blue locomotive from England:) I got my first model trains about 8 years ago, but quickly lost interest since I was young and didn't have a lot of money to spend on expensive Mainland European models. Then decided around the summer of 2020 or so that I did want to get model trains again, so I bought some British stock and experimented with that, which I much preferred over the German trains I had. Now it's a couple of years later and I've built up a small collection of rolling stock, almost all from the BR steam era. I don't have a permanent layout as of yet sadly since I just don't know what to build, so here's a picture of my latest model, having just arrived last week, running on a small floor layout.

 

I think he'll be called Victorious, the load on the Warwell is something my grandfather made 8 years or so ago. Now to think of a layout for it to run on... 

 

And to quickly edit in my main modelling interests:

 

-BR steam / BR green era, particularly with an interest in East Anglia

 

-British Industrial railways, preferably in an urban setting

 

And although not something I'll model in the near future, the Dutch railway scene from 1968 to about 2001 is also something I quite like. 

 

 

Greetings,

 

Treinenliefde

Edited June 17, 2023 by Treinenliefde

[woodenhead]

An interesting loco to show off, does that mean you feel an interest in industrial steam?

[AY Mod]

7 minutes ago, Treinenliefde said:

Greetings

 

Greetings to you too! You appear to have good sensible tastes! Just don't expect all models to run as well as the Victory does.

[Treinenliefde]

Just now, woodenhead said:

An interesting loco to show off, does that mean you feel an interest in industrial steam?

Absolutely, yes! Industrial steam is definitely an interest to me, although typing about it I can't put my finger on why.😃 I just like it. The idea for my first permanent layout is to at least have it be something industrial, although I'm still thinking of what. It's probably going to to a brewery or harbour, although the Victory would be rather large for a brewery.

[Treinenliefde]

6 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

Greetings to you too! You appear to have good sensible tastes! Just don't expect all models to run as well as the Victory does.

Hah, thanks! Yeah the Victory is a very nice runner, such a smooth mechanism in it. Puts my other models to shame. 

[Michael Hodgson]

I'm not sure I would associate East Anglia with the industrial scene in this country - the region is mostly agricultural and almost as flat as the Netherlands.

 

Most of our heavy industry was in the Midlands and the North of England, Central Scotland and South Wales where the coal and mineral deposits were to be found, though of course some there are always localities with particular industries, and anyway industrial locos were privately owned and tended not to venture far beyond the owning factories' own land.

[Treinenliefde]

Indeed East Anglia never really had a lot in terms of industrial railways, although looking at this thread it does appear that there were quite a few places where industrials ran. Quite annoying, I really like East Anglia in BR days with the old GER stock combined with modern BR locomotives, but I also like industrial railways. I do remember seeing a picture in a book of a BR locomotive shunting grain vans to a brewery in the region however which looked rather interesting, maybe that place had it's own locomotive? Although a Victory would be too large for a brewery anyway, something of this size only seems to fit in at a colliery, steelworks or a dockside. Docks would be rather fun to build, but I don't really have the space to build a convincing dockside layout.

 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Treinenliefde

[Michael Hodgson]

Barrington is the name of an industrial steam loco that worked on that line

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/avonside-engine-company-works-no-1875-barrington-0-4-0st/

Now preserved at Colne Valley but not in service

https://www.colnevalleyrailway.co.uk/locomotives/

 

The light railway was privately owned, effectively a branch line from Foxton where it joined the Hitchin-Cambridge line and served a quarry and cement works in the village of Barrington until fairly recently.  The cement works had a wagon tippler. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/albums/72157629560956868/

https://www.rocks-by-rail.org/2020/02/23/the-last-standard-gauge-quarry-train-in-the-uk-recalled

 

It even had a few open days where the public could ride on the train and tour the works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiBqXatkqS4

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Michael Hodgson

[Treinenliefde]

On 18/06/2023 at 02:14, Michael Hodgson said:

Barrington is the name of an industrial steam loco that worked on that line

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/avonside-engine-company-works-no-1875-barrington-0-4-0st/

Now preserved at Colne Valley but not in service

https://www.colnevalleyrailway.co.uk/locomotives/

 

The light railway was privately owned, effectively a branch line from Foxton where it joined the Hitchin-Cambridge line and served a quarry and cement works in the village of Barrington until fairly recently.  The cement works had a wagon tippler. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/albums/72157629560956868/

https://www.rocks-by-rail.org/2020/02/23/the-last-standard-gauge-quarry-train-in-the-uk-recalled

 

It even had a few open days where the public could ride on the train and tour the works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiBqXatkqS4

 

That looks very interesting! A nice fleet of varying locomotives as well. I don't think I could do it justice with the space I have right now, but this is definitely an idea I'll keep in mind. Although something like this could definitely work for an interesting (but large) diorama.

[tractionman]

On 17/06/2023 at 23:23, Treinenliefde said:

Indeed East Anglia never really had a lot in terms of industrial railways, although looking at this thread it does appear that there were quite a few places where industrials ran. Quite annoying, I really like East Anglia in BR days with the old GER stock combined with modern BR locomotives, but I also like industrial railways. I do remember seeing a picture in a book of a BR locomotive shunting grain vans to a brewery in the region however which looked rather interesting, maybe that place had it's own locomotive? Although a Victory would be too large for a brewery anyway, something of this size only seems to fit in at a colliery, steelworks or a dockside. Docks would be rather fun to build, but I don't really have the space to build a convincing dockside layout.

 

 

 

Hi and welcome!

 

On industrial railways in East Anglia I recommend this book:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Industrial-Locomotives-Railways-Eastern-England/dp/1445667908

 

Which has lots of inspiration :-)

 

Good luck with your layout, I used a 4x1 foot piece of chipboard to create a small layout to just kickstart my modelling and hone/test skills, which works for industrial locos and stock.

 

all the best,

 

Keith 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Treinenliefde]

13 hours ago, tractionman said:

 

Hi and welcome!

 

On industrial railways in East Anglia I recommend this book:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Industrial-Locomotives-Railways-Eastern-England/dp/1445667908

 

Which has lots of inspiration :-)

 

Good luck with your layout, I used a 4x1 foot piece of chipboard to create a small layout to just kickstart my modelling and hone/test skills, which works for industrial locos and stock.

 

all the best,

 

Keith 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like a good book indeed! Thank you! Yeah small layouts are really nice for industrial loco's, I only have about 8 foot by 2 foot in space available right now so my first layout won't be big even if I want it to. 😄 A model of Framlingham for example is still in the back of my head as a future project. 

[tractionman]

On 22/06/2023 at 21:33, Treinenliefde said:

Looks like a good book indeed! Thank you! Yeah small layouts are really nice for industrial loco's, I only have about 8 foot by 2 foot in space available right now so my first layout won't be big even if I want it to. 😄 A model of Framlingham for example is still in the back of my head as a future project. 

 

just spotted this on Facebook too:

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/163976490369879/permalink/5811246838976121/

 

 

[Treinenliefde]

6 hours ago, tractionman said:

 

just spotted this on Facebook too:

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/163976490369879/permalink/5811246838976121/

 

 

Awesome, thanks! Quite some interesting locations in that list. The sugar beet factory at Ipswich in particular looks quite interesting. It also has quite a nice trackplan from what I can see on maps.nls.uk. Interesting to know the sidings would've been used for over flow marshalling, that could give me a lot of flexibility if I would want to have something different be stabled on the layout for a bit. Which does compensate the blandness of running rakes of generic open wagons. 😄

 

 

Looking through my copy of "First Generation Diesels in East Anglia" (which is superb inspiration for a lot of potential future layouts in a non-industrial setting) I did find quite an interesting image of a 37 street running to Felixstowe which looked rather interesting. Admittedly not suitable for an industrial locomotive in it's current setting but I could possibly combine some elements of Yarmouth and Lowestoft to create an dockside layout generic enough to allow for running both BR stock and privately owned stock. I saw an image of two industrial locomotives on The Mersey Docks & Harbour Board railway in a setting not too far off from Yarmouth and Lowestoft in terms of general layout so that might also be a possibility.

Admittedly I did scrap an idea for a dockside layout because I felt I didn't have enough space (about 9 ft by 3 ft) to create the typical long stretches of a layout inspired by the Ipswich quayside lines but having the possibility to combine BR diesels, BR shunters and industrial locomotives in one layout would be quite nice, particularly with the various types of wagons you can see on such a layout. I'll see if I can come up with a layout in Anyrail. Although that could take a week since my trackplanning skills are quite poor and the next days . 

 

In the meantime "Industrial Locomotives & Railways of Eastern England" should arrive here on tuesday so that'll probably give quite some nice inspiration as well.