What is the text on the short sides of Class 108?

[Tramfabriek]

Does someone have a picture(s) of the text that is shown on the short sides of the Class 108?

[cctransuk]

22 minutes ago, Tramfabriek said:

Does someone have a picture(s) of the text that is shown on the short sides of the Class 108?

 

No photo - but it varies between car types. It's the vehicle type code, plus seating capacity, weight, dimensions, etc.

 

The red on white sticker is the overhead live wire warning.

 

CJI.

[jbqfc]

Here one from a class 377/3 

 

John

[cctransuk]

5 minutes ago, jbqfc said:

Here one from a class 377/3 

 

John

 

Same sort of thing - but that is a far more modern version.

 

CJI.

[cctransuk]

Do a Google search on 'BR dmu data panel', and choose 'Images'.

 

CJI.

[Tramfabriek]

Thanks for the suggestions. It's very helpful to know that this information is called "data panel". A Google search brings up a Class 122 panel. https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-122/data-panels

 

I guess I can make something up from that, if I can understand the material abbreviation:

MBS - Motor Brake Standard

TSL - Trailer Standard (class) Lavatory

MCL - Motor Composite Lavatory? (Can't see for sure if the last letter is an L)

Would this be correct?

[bécasse]

S originally stood for second (and T for third had been used instead on older vehicles until June 1956). Standard only replaced second as a class designation in the mid-1980s at about the same time as passengers became customers, and for much the same reason.

[Jeremy Cumberland]

I'm surprised they aren't DMBS and DMCL, with D standing for Driving. Certainly later data panels (mid-70s onwards) used D. There's one on this page from the excellent railcar.co.uk site: https://www.railcar.co.uk/data/design-codes/

[giz]

9 hours ago, Jeremy Cumberland said:

I'm surprised they aren't DMBS and DMCL, with D standing for Driving. Certainly later data panels (mid-70s onwards) used D. There's one on this page from the excellent railcar.co.uk site: https://www.railcar.co.uk/data/design-codes/

I don't think they originally envisioned that there would be non-driving motor cars in DMUs. It wasn't until the Trans Pennine six car sets in 1960 that there were any.

Edited September 27, 2023 by giz

[black and decker boy]

20 hours ago, Tramfabriek said:

Thanks for the suggestions. It's very helpful to know that this information is called "data panel". A Google search brings up a Class 122 panel. https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-122/data-panels

 

I guess I can make something up from that, if I can understand the material abbreviation:

MBS - Motor Brake Standard

TSL - Trailer Standard (class) Lavatory

MCL - Motor Composite Lavatory? (Can't see for sure if the last letter is an L)

Would this be correct?

If you need transfers, Railtec already do them

 

https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1722

[Jeremy Cumberland]

38 minutes ago, black and decker boy said:

If you need transfers, Railtec already do them

 

https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1722

They are the later type, which I don't recall seeing till units got refurbished in the mid to late 70s. I am too young to remember DMUs in green, but for plain blue DMUs, I only ever remember seeing lettering in white on the blue end, with no black panel.

 

The class 122 page linked to earlier shows a variety of different styles (and it also explains a lot of the abbreviations). Class 122s were single cars so something of an oddity. Here is a picture of a more conventional class 104: https://www.railcar.co.uk/images/1044. If you click on the 1600 px link you get a bigger image, which can be blown up even more to reveal all of the writing.

[Wickham Green too]

52 minutes ago, black and decker boy said:

If you need transfers, Railtec already do them ... https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1722

6 minutes ago, Jeremy Cumberland said:

They are the later type, ...

Have a word with Railtec - they were kind enough to offer to produce some transfers I wanted a while back ..... and if they're reading this an offer for THESE might come out of the blue ( Though they' ask YOU to provide details.). 

[Tramfabriek]

Thanks for the suggestions. That Class 104 picture shows me what is most likely and I'll use that as an example.

 

I have a printer that can print in white and yellow, so I'm fine for decals.