RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 10 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Buffer beams and glazing fitted to driving motor coach. Cheers Darius 22 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10 Looks good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 Upholstery moquette decals printed for the interiors. Cheers Darius 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 (edited) Question to anyone here who remembers or even travelled in these units: did the first class compartments have arm rests and were there four seats per side? Cheers Darius Edited January 11 by Darius43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 51 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Question to anyone here who remembers or even travelled in these units: did the first class compartments have arm rests and were there four seats per side? Cheers Darius Try this…. https://www.altrinchamheritage.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Souvenir-May-11th-1931-Manchester-Altrincham-Electric-Train-Service.pdf 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 That’s fantastic!!! Many thanks 97406 😀 Cheers Darius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 Driving motor coach interior constructed using plasticard and Peco/Ratio compartment coach seating. The compartment wall positions had to be individually marked as the punched window openings in the MTK coach body don’t line up on either side - there’s about a 1mm stagger. Cheers Darius 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, Darius43 said: That’s fantastic!!! Many thanks 97406 😀 Cheers Darius No problem. It makes me want to progress my Class 304 which is a long term project based on Replica suburbans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I found this from Martyn Hilbert on Flickr, might be useful: And from John Turner on Flickr, a 304 at Oxford Road during the time it was the 1500V:25kV frontier, the 505s only ran into the bay at this stage: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, 97406 said: Try this…. https://www.altrinchamheritage.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Souvenir-May-11th-1931-Manchester-Altrincham-Electric-Train-Service.pdf Wow what an interesting booklet, not only the railway stuff but the adverts etc. There is an advert for the semi detached house, £495. I have just looked on Right Move and found a similar looking property that I believe to be on the estate as in the advert a couple of bob short of £600,000. Sorry for the thread shift. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 30 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Wow what an interesting booklet, not only the railway stuff but the adverts etc. There is an advert for the semi detached house, £495. I have just looked on Right Move and found a similar looking property that I believe to be on the estate as in the advert a couple of bob short of £600,000. Sorry for the thread shift. My folks paid in the region of £2500 for their semi near Navi Road station in 1966! Anyhow back to the EMU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, Darius43 said: Driving motor coach interior constructed using plasticard and Peco/Ratio compartment coach seating. The compartment wall positions had to be individually marked as the punched window openings in the MTK coach body don’t line up on either side - there’s about a 1mm stagger. Cheers Darius Colin M would probably have regarded 1mm as 'within tolerance'! This is coming along really nicely. Oddly enough I've had some of those Ratio seat strips in stock since the 1970s - original reason for purchase lost in the mists of time, but I finally found a use for some bits of it just last week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 Upholstery completed. Cheers Darius 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 I am not sure what they are to be used for but I often lop off the head rest for SOME uses. Transfers work well, bit like the PECO cardboard coach insides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 After looking at the above pictures of the real ones, you can see they are an LMS design, Period 2 it seems. Very characterful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 35 minutes ago, MJI said: I am not sure what they are to be used for but I often lop off the head rest for SOME uses. The interior photos helpfully posted by 97406 show that the headrests are definitely present in the Class 505. Cheers Darius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Darius43 said: The interior photos helpfully posted by 97406 show that the headrests are definitely present in the Class 505. Cheers Darius Which is good but most of the comets i have built don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 11 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Interior fitted and pantograph details added. Also painted the door furniture. Cheers Darius 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 12 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 12 (edited) Cab front handrails fitted and painted. Cheers Darius Edited January 12 by Darius43 18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 12 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12 Centre coach glazing fitted. Cheers Darius 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 12 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12 Driving Trailer construction commenced. Doors scribed and white metal ends fixed to body. The Driving Trailer cab front doesn’t have the roof access steps so these were removed and the front cleaned up. Cheers Darius 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 A very impressive piece of work, from some unpromising materials . At least there won't be many others around and you should be pretty safe from any RTR model , even in the current climate. (Oddly enough I have heard of one other model of these recently , via another route - chopped up ex Airfix/Dapol LMS non-corridors. You seem to have got there faster) Scratchbuilding the roof ofd Manchester Oxford Road may be a bit of a challenge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 13 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13 (edited) Whilst scribing the doors to the Driving Trailer coach, I noticed something potentially awry. A luggage space had been allowed for immediately behind the driving cab with double door access on each side of the coach. The windows to the coach body are punched out for this interior configuration. Problem is that all the photos of the Driving Trailer that I have seen do not show this luggage compartment - just a passenger compartment immediately behind the cab. Is this luggage compartment a figure of CM’s imagination or did the actual Driving Trailer have such a compartment? The question is somewhat moot as correction is not really an option and so the model will have the luggage compartment come what may. Edit. Mystery solved. CM has used the same body shells (and cab fronts for that matter) as for the LMS GEC Watford EMU kit that he produced. The GEC Watford unit did have the luggage compartment in the Driving Trailer. Cheers Darius Edited January 13 by Darius43 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 There was some variation in the 505 fleet. Some sets were extended to 4 cars with an extra trailer third. Then some other vehicles were damaged beyond repair in WWII and accidents, and the 4th cars were modified to take their place. These conversions were somewhat different to the originals. I can look up the details if it would help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 13 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: There was some variation in the 505 fleet. Some sets were extended to 4 cars with an extra trailer third. Then some other vehicles were damaged beyond repair in WWII and accidents, and the 4th cars were modified to take their place. These conversions were somewhat different to the originals. I can look up the details if it would help. Thanks for the offer but no need. My experience of MTK is that generic parts were shared between various kits irrespective of accuracy. I have the GEC Watford EMU kit and the body shells are identical. Now pondering a plasticard modification… Cheers Darius Edited January 13 by Darius43 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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