Portstewart Tran Loco in Hull museum

[Andy Kirkham]

Does anyone know how Portstewart Tram Loco No.1 ended up in Hull, of all places? Likewise the Ryde pier tramway "grapes" car?

[decauville1126]

I think it may have been because at the time Hull was one of the few transport museums around that could offer a place to such items, rather than having some local connection. 

[Forward!]

It's been at Hull since 1939 when it was added to the city's Museum of Commerce and Industry (the precursor of the modern Streetlife museum). It was on the iniative of HA Whitcombe, a noted tramway enthusiast. I'm not sure whether he had a connection to Hull or whether it was simply an expedient to save the loco by finding any municipal museum willing to take it?

[Wickham Green too]

At that date it could easily have been melted down to make Spitfires ! ( Or whatever they actually DID do with all those railings. )

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1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said:

At that date it could easily have been melted down to make Spitfires ! ( Or whatever they actually DID do with all those railings. )

Not to mention getting destroyed on the Hull Blitz  which gutted the museum. Presumably the artefacts were in storage at the time.

 

(Fun fact, totally off topic, the last remaining bombed-out building in the UK is in Hull. Its a former cinema and is now grade II listed and being preserved using lottery money.)

[Steamport Southport]

Not so. Still loads of old bombed out buildings around here including this.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Luke,_Liverpool

 

 

 

Jason

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43 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

Not so. Still loads of old bombed out buildings around here including this.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Luke,_Liverpool

 

 

 

Jason

 

Sorry, not clear. The last remaining civilian bombed-out building that has not been subject to some form of intentional post-war retention, stabilisation or repair works to bring it into some form of use, even as a ruin (many bombed churches, in contrast, became part of postwar parks and gardens as part of clearance and reconstruction schemes). The retention of bombed-out secular buildings post-war was much less widespread and invariably never really intentional. They lingered for (in cases) decades, but redevelopment inevitably saw that they were demolished. The National Picture Theatre in Hull was a site abandoned after its destruction in 1941 and until very recently had simply not been touched at all. There are still smoke stains on the facade and rubble in the back.

 

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1391850?section=official-list-entry

 

Will