rs4 Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Got to say..... It's up there in the top ten for the easiest fitting of a DCC chip... Remove cardboard sleeve. Remove motor unit from outer plastic sleeve - leaving the unit in the cradle. Lift up water tank module and hey presto ! Access to the 21 pin connector...if only they were all like this....4Cep....class 70... Take note ! Haven't run yet though as I don't have any DCC set-up at home.... Regards Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 That is progress indeed, and very welcome. After the simplification of sockets in steam loco tenders, patiently releasing and replacing the class 105 DMU body without damage to perform a decoder install felt like an unwelcome return to the past. Near six inches of underside to select a location for a 21 pin socket under a screw secured cover... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NaN Posted September 2, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2011 An update on my DCC troubles... Received replacement item, again lovely on DC, no life on DCC. Tried more chips in case the others had been fried. Still nothing. Thought I'd triple check the test track by placing another locomotive on the track (which had same DCC address of 3), and suddenly the MPV springs into life!! Removed locomotive and MPV goes dead again. Gave Bachmann a call and the guy who answered in the service department I think said they have had similar trouble with the 2EPB as well, which it and the MPV have a new PCB. I was the first to let them know about the MPV having the same trouble. Most interestingly, he said that it appears to just be if you are using a Hornby controller (I'm using an Elite). He suggested trying it on a Dynamis as so far their tests do not show any problem when using the Dynamis. This I will do over the weekend. He did go on to say that they are investigating the fault, to try and work out what is causing the problem between the three things interacting (controller, chip and pcb). So if anyone is having trouble with DCC hopefully this is helpful information. Obviously not an ideal situation, but (subject to testing with a Dynamis at the weekend so I can at least use the lovely model elsewhere) I'm happy to be patient and allow Bachmann to work out what is wrong and hopefully them finding a solution - at least I no longer think I'm just very unlucky with getting a faulty model twice! NaN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs4 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hello again Sorry to hear of your DCC troubles. Almost a week after getting mine I've finally got it on the programming track today... Initially my heart sank - no movement no CV read in. It's usually pretty instant with my ECoS and if it takes anymore than that.... I know I've got a problem. Anyway... Nothing happened. Pressed X tried again - instantly reads "3". Then I alter to the required number. Read - whahey ! Works ! Bit noisy running... But at I'm not going to moan - what a superb model that none of us thought would ever get made (even when it was announced in the catalogue!) Regards Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beacon Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Mine arrived in the post yesterday. Test ran it on DC with no problems and then popped in a chip from another loco as I didn't have a spare decoder. No problems running it with my Dynamis so now just need to order it its own decoder and all should be well. Well worth the wait and the price in my book - a great model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NaN Posted September 3, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2011 Have now tried it with a Dynamis and it works fine, so appears it is something with it's interaction with Hornby Elite that is not right on DCC. NaN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 hi guys,fitted a lenz silver into mine and it ran faultlessly all weekend at the blackburn show,stunning model and cant wait for my railtrack version! cheers,bob I hope Big Bob had his MPV suitably weathered before its Lancastrian debut? If it looks good out of the box it looks stunning weathered! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2011 Are the two NR ones actually different numbers then as their code numbers for dc and dcc versions suggest? 31-575 appears to be 98906 and 31-576DC appears to be 98902 in their magazine adverts. Nothing on the Bachmann site about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 My DCC fitted one should arrive tomorrow Paul, I did have one on pre-order after all! I'll let you know the number if nobody else beats me to it. Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NaN Posted September 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2011 They're definitely different running numbers between the DC and DCC fitted versions, although I can't confirm what they are right now. NaN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thanks chaps, I'd like to see it in the flesh Scott if it arrives tomorrow I've got one on pre order but could be tempted by a second if they are different numbers as I have a cunning plan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 If it arrives tomorrow I shall bring it with me when I see you in the not so distant future. It was posted from Hattons today... Fingers crossed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NaN Posted September 10, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2011 The back of the new Hornby magazine that just dropped through my letterbox has an advert for all three. Numbers are: 31-575 Network Rail 98906(bit blurred but looks like a six!) 31-576DC N. Rail 98902 31-577 Railtrack 98910 NaN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 err,no! thats next weekends job!! cheers,bob We will try and phot ours (mine) on Elliott Bridge at Ayr Show next weekend for RMWeb and post some pix. It has a film of suitably Sandite like gunk...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2011 Thought a few pics of the real ones in sandite mode on Wessex might be of interest. This one shows the slightly differerent tanks on this batch with full cage handrails rather than just waist height. The side panel on the tank is also chrome rather than grey so maybe another mod with some metallic paints? and finally an empty one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Nice photos Paul, unfortunately the postie failed to deliver mine today, guess it will be Monday now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Ive seen one in first person and was very tempted for an impulse purchase! It does look excellent and the detail is into a new level again. A brilliant looking model, just a shame Im skint! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 11, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2011 Found 4 more that might be of interest to those detailing. All from 2004 season and before the second tanks were added which was during that years Leaf Fall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Mine arrived on the 15th - and now Network Rail has taken complete possession of the layout... First impressions say its a really splendid, a terrific model and well worth it for all the fine engineering Bachmann have put into it. It runs smoothly on DC - (I am not set up for DCC) I had some trouble running it backwards over some points but realized that the trouble was caused by not fully connecting the connector. The clip needs to be fully home to give the needed clearance. I was also very impressed with the fact that they have included a spare set of wheels with traction tyres just in case my layout has some steep inclines. (It was built to be level but when finish it inexplicably was not ) (Hornby could well learn from this and stop fitting traction tyres as standard and like Bachmann give us a choice...) What would have been useful would have been some info on exactly what the machine is set up to do - Does anyone know what mode the model is in? (I live in Canada and have yet to see one live in action...) There is an opportunity here for Bachmann to provide alternative gear to place on the machine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2011 They are in water jet setup, my photos in the posts above are all in jetting mode. I haven't any pictures of them in de-icer setup but the weedspray version has a significantly different module with a operator workstation actually in the module from seeing one briefly a few months ago. Lets hope they sell well and Bachmann brings out more modules for next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 They are in water jet setup, my photos in the posts above are all in jetting mode. I haven't any pictures of them in de-icer setup but the weedspray version has a significantly different module with a operator workstation actually in the module from seeing one briefly a few months ago. Lets hope they sell well and Bachmann brings out more modules for next year. Paul -Thanks for that - I too hope that they do and that Bachmann does! - It'll make for better modelling interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Ran my DCC onboard MPV in on Friday night, no problems, runs really well. Transferred to DCC last night, nothing, completely dead. I will try and reset the defaults tonight using my Dynamis set. Have just written to Bachmann who sent this reply, which is pretty much as NaN has reported:- There should not be a problem with either of the Bachmann DCC controllers and have confirmed with an E-Z Command today, however we have our engineers investigating why the unit will not work wth Hornby DCC systems Regards, Service Team Bachmann Europe plc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Collected mine on Friday, simple job adding a chip, an old Lenz Silver 21. No problems with mine at all. Runs very well, although it's a lttle tricky to join the master to the slave, ensuring the clip underneath the coupler is fully home. If this doesn't win model of the year for 2011, then it's a fix! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 An update, manageds to reset the defaults on the decoder and it runs perfectly on the Dynamis set. However it is still completely dead on my layout which uses the EZ command controller. Have informed Bachmann and waiting for advice. I also have to say it looks superb, pity the decoders aren't as simple tpo fit on all loco's maybe in the underbody somewhere.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Anybody had any success using an EZ Command, I wondered whether I should try a TCS or Lenz decoder in it ? It's just strange it runs ok using the Dynamis, just don't want to throw more money away. It's a great model and I don't particularly want to send it back, but it looks as though I may have no choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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