Guest stuartp Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I was reffering to the 37 in the article as they are a minefield. It was the old Hornby one when it was the only game in town. It was quite impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 7, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2010 Where'd the 30k come from JE, was it in the press release? If that's an out-turn projection, I'd go further than saying it's good value, I'd add the adjective optimistic. It's probably the estimated cost of the paperwork Once the Inspectorate get their teeth into it then it might well be seen as no more than an out-turn projection (for the paperwork). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I hope this goes to plan. I have been aware of this plan for a few months now, as I have a friend who is involved with the DPS. AFAIK, detailed CAD drawings and FEA calculations had to be done to make sure it was safe to cut the class 37 superstructure and that it could maintain its structural integrity once rejoined. One of the problems is that the class 37 cab and nose taper in a fair bit, but the cab and nose of a baby deltic are full width. I hope they incorporate all the mechanical drives from the engine to the traction motor blowers and compressors, etc, so it has the realistic whirring clunking sound as the engine screams its guts out. Looking forward to this one. Lets hope someone finds a MAN power unit soon aswell. NBL 21 anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Dodger Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I was just about to say the same thing. A babby warship would be good. However, there's not really a similar bodyshell in wide preservation or any at all, unless there are 29s. So that's those hopes knackered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluex5 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Much as I'd love to see an NBL diesel reborn it's not going to happen unless someone did a full "new build". The baby deltic project has a complete prime mover plus the availability of EE bits including a shell that at least gives a starting point for recreating a Class 23. There are no mechanical parts or superstructure still in existance for any of the NBL locos as far as I'm aware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 There was talk a long time ago about building a class 21 using the commonwealth power bogies off a 309. The trouble is, there were a lot of aluminium castings used on NBL loco's, especially around the cabs and buffer beams, plus a lot of the body side grills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Out of interest where were the 309 bogies suposed to have come from? Afterall the one opportunity tograb them ended happier than that in that all of the 309s availible were preserved! m0rris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 For any hypothetical Class 29 rebuild, wouldn't a Paxman Valenta do the job? I understand that there would have been certain developments of the basic lump to meet the different needs of the class 43, but would it be that different? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 AFAIK, the Paxman Valenta was based on the Paxman Ventura used in the class 29's. I think the experience gained by BR with the Paxman lump in the class 29 was one of the reasons they went with the Valenta on the HST's. From what film footage I've seen so far, it appears that the class 29's didn't scream like an HST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Out of interest where were the 309 bogies suposed to have come from? Afterall the one opportunity tograb them ended happier than that in that all of the 309s availible were preserved! m0rris The idea was being discussed at the time when the beloved 309's were still working on the GE main line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Aah, many thanks! m0rris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 IIRC Ken Joy who was behind the Class 21 project about 10-15 years ago bought a pair of 309 bogies and found an NBL-MAN L12V-21B engine, but couldn't get enough interest or donations to get the engine or to get the project to proceed. It was along time ago so apologies if my memory is playing tricks and I've got me facts wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Looks like someone is planning some 1:1 scale kitbashing...: http://www.preserved-diesels.co.uk/2010c/37372_1.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted September 26, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2010 Looks like someone is planning some 1:1 scale kitbashing...: http://www.preserved-diesels.co.uk/2010c/37372_1.htm Yes, they wanted to have the loco on show at the MRLive! event but one exhibitor wanted the doors shut as it was too draughty. I have my Baby Deltic Beer in the fridge for tonight after making a donation yesterday to this fine project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Looks like someone is planning some 1:1 scale kitbashing...: http://www.preserved...10c/37372_1.htm Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'nose job'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 They certainly have my support and I will be making my donation in due course. They can also use any of my Class 23 images for their PR campaigns if it helps in any way. Does this mean that as the DPS have two spare Deltic cab ends that DP2 also becomes a possibility?????????? I'd better sign off now!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 WNXX site is reporting a setback for the baby deltic project http://www.wnxx.com/news/index.htm Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted July 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2014 Is the baby deltic project still progressing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 It seems so: http://www.thebabydelticproject.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted July 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2014 Looking forward to seeing the progress at Barrow Hill Live! I'll be there with Summat Colliery, think I'll take my A1 Models baby deltic to run 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 How about just 3D printing one in 1:1 scale? XF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted July 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would like to see the table that printer could set on 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Resurrecting an archaic thread, but it's really starting to look like a Baby Deltic now... https://www.babydeltic.co.uk/news-17-september-2021 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Yep, will be great when finished 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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