robmcg Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Hi All, Could someone tell if it was possible that, as in my picture of N15 No.30764 'Sir Gawain' (Stewarts Lane), it would have been likely to pull Maunsell Set 201 in blood and custard, with what I think might be a suitable west-east headcode? As in possibly Bournemouth or Southampton-Dover or something similar? It's a bit late now to choose, but would be interesting. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I bought some of the Hornby Coaches which formed Set 201, as they were some of the first Blood and Custard Maunsells available, suspecting that I might need to alter the Set No. as I am primarily interested in 2 Coach P-Sets in the far South West. . Sometime back I downloaded what looks to be a fairly reputable list of SR Coach Set formations from one of the specialist SR "study" websites. This has proved to be accurate as far as the information relating to Southern far west P-sets is concerned. On that basis this list shows Set 201 - 3730,5635, 3731 as being "allocated" to Waterloo- Weymouth workings from 1930-1960. For period 1960/61 the 2 BTK's seem to have been incorporated into an eight-coach Set 201 "allocated" to Waterloo/Salisbury/Bournemouth/Weymouth workings. So I guess Bournemouth is more than plausible but Dover is more problematical. I hope this information is useful and not something you already knew but it will at least give a "bump" to the topic and I am sure someone more knowledgeable will respond if it is incorrect. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Thanks David, At least we are in the right area. Maybe set 201 was 'bortrowed' for a weekend working ...? Someone might offer the exact headcode as in the pic, too? Regards, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted October 20, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2010 Here is a list of Southern headcodes from 1944 onwards. The rest of the SEMG site is worth a browse too for all things Southern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Hi Rob' Just adding a little more info' to Davids and PhilH's very informative replies. After leaving 73A (Stewarts Lane), 30764 was allocated to 71B (Bournemouth), in 1959. AFIK, it remained there until withdrawl in July 1961. As David states, 3-Set 'M' No. 201 was SR Western Section allocated, throughout it's life. From 1930 to 1960, it retained it's BSK+CK+BSK formation. In 1960 it was re-formed into an 8-Set 'M', with the addition of 4 x SKs + 1 x FK + 1 x SO, losing it's CK, in the process.The set was withdrawn from service during the following year. For a full run-down, see here. http://www.semgonlin...h/CoachSets.txt Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 20, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2010 While I am a member of SEmG, I don't find the format of that data very easy to follow. Much better, IMHO, is this site http://www3.sympatico.ca/lsw.lbsc/00COACHS/SETREGST.HTM The author is an SEmG member, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 From the September 1955 Western Section Carriage Working Notice Appendix: M indicated 3-sets allocated to Waterloo-Bournemouth-Weymouth, Waterloo-Basingstoke-Salisbury, Waterloo-West of England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Here is a list of Southern headcodes from 1944 onwards. The rest of the SEMG site is worth a browse too for all things Southern. Thanks, it appears I have chosen; Victoria or Battersea Yard and Eastbourne or Hastings via Quarry line London Bridge, New Cross gate or West Croydon and Wimbledon Brighton and Littlehampton direct London and Hither Green Sidings Victoria and Folkestone Harbour or Dover Marine via Swanley, Otford and Tonbridge Waterloo or Nine Elms and Plymouth Bournemouth Central and Dorchester goods trains Light engines eastleigh Loco depiot and Dean Battersea Yard and Brent via New Kew Junc Southampton Terminus and Portsmouth Harbour via Netley Brockenhurst and Poole (not stopping at Bournemouth) Feltham to Salisbury via Chertsey Which suits the Eastern Section loco on a Victoria-Dover Marine or Folkestone, via Swanley Otford and Tonbridge service but perhaps Waterloo-Plymouth (or section thereof) but with a replacement Stewarts Lane locomotive is more plausible? Thanks for the reply, the SR headcode site is excellent. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I see what you mean about the Semg data being a trifle hard to follow, Olddudders. It shows Set 201 re-formed into an 8-Set later, date shown as 1960, rather than 9/57 shown in your link / chart. Interesting to see it was allocated 'Special Traffic'' as well. It might have suited Robmcg, if it had happened a few years earlier. Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Aha! "Special Traffic". A much loved aspect of my railway modelling! I'm sure I saw an excellent photo of a mid 1950s Marsh Atlantic at the head of about 5 Maunsells + van on a Bournemouth-Brighton train, with the headcode in the N15 picture, but couldn't easil;y find the photo... Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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