RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted February 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2014 Nice repaint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angell328 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Matt, Few teasers for your crane, doing a basic copy of the Mk1 with a few tweaks! Biggest change so far is I am making a pocket in the match wagon for the jib to sit in. Few questions for you buddy, what couplings would you like on the crane, large tension lock as built, small tension lock NEM type or 3 link? Shall keep you updated with tweaks and am doing the drawings for Mk2 as well, so will be some progress on that coming up shortly! Cheers Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Matt, Nice work on the crane, should look smart when finished. Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hi Matt, Few teasers for your crane, doing a basic copy of the Mk1 with a few tweaks! 20140217_005546.jpg 20140217_005601.jpg 20140217_011715.jpg 20140217_021854.jpg Biggest change so far is I am making a pocket in the match wagon for the jib to sit in. Few questions for you buddy, what couplings would you like on the crane, large tension lock as built, small tension lock NEM type or 3 link? Shall keep you updated with tweaks and am doing the drawings for Mk2 as well, so will be some progress on that coming up shortly! Cheers Matt Hey Matt, Looking good, the extra length added to the main body completely changes it. As for couplings, small hook and loops nem pocket style please, if you need some I have plenty of spares. It'll probably encourage me to put more subtle couplings on the support carriages too. Weather pending, hopefully all 3 of them will be yellow by the end of the weekend. Are there any specific transfers it would be useful to have made up for the crane? Cheers again, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Matt, Looking very good. It must be inetersting to build a second version. I have one observation in that I think the pocket for the pocket in the match wagon for the jib may be longer than your cut out and may even extend below the jib support trestle itself, I have based this assumption on the images and drawings in Peter Tatlows Book “Railway Breakdown Cranes Volume 2 “ I have attached a photo of my match wagon conversion; unfortunately I cut it at the wrong end. ( I did feel a bit of a when I realsied) Not too much of an issue though as I am going to reduce the width of the support trestle if I can. This is however subject to allowing for articulation of the jib. I have an idea how to make this work but need to carry out a few experiments and trail runs first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angell328 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hi, Many thanks for the picture, I only got the runner the right way round on the first crane by luck so don't feel to bad! This build is a quick and dirty for a mate to get the general feel of the crane and to give the hook somewhere to stay. On my original one it does look odd having it just laying on the runner. On the Mk2 build I shall be doing a scratch built runner wagon as it is the only bogey that is too short, by almost a 3rd! This will allow a much deeper and longer pocket (I hope!) Ref the jib articulation I think the only way to get it to work on 2nd radius curves with the runner bracket the correct width is to copy the prototype and have a floating bearing/joint at the base of the jib. Shouldn't be too tricky to sort with a metal bar and suffiently deep forks to ride on it. Love to see the rest of your crane, judging from the match wagon should be a nice build. Cheers Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angell328 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Rgr, small NEM style coupling for you Mr Goldfish! Does make a big differance visually having the overhang on the main body. Stangely enough the main body of the crane isn't as out of scale as it looks, it's just that Hornby have mounted it too far forward! Shall have to bring the blueprints I have round with the crane when built and you can see the changes. As for transfers shall have a look and get back to you buddy. Hope the secret airbase in the midlands isn't sucking all the life out of you!! Cheers Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 G'day mr Angell and all your followers! On the subject of the jib runner wagon, I have found I have a picture in an old mag of the Toton crane which nicely shows the storage boxes underneath if you'd like a copy? The exile is going well, hopefully at the end of this coming week I'll be allowed back to a real airfield. Work progresses on the rough and ready support carriages to go with the crane: I found on the Toton picture mentioned above that the carriages I chose to try are coincidently similar to the Toton setup! At the far right in the pic is the tool van. Next job is to finish smoothing the filler on the sides. Based on: http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975132 In the middle in yellow is a tool/messing carriage. Paint just needs sorting out properly on this now. Based on: http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975459-1 And on the left is what will become a generator/tool carriage. More milliput to smooth down on this and some plated over windows to add to make it look less like a bg that's too long. Based on: http://www.departmentals.com/photo/977110-1 The crane will be to the left of the generator carriage. THAT IS ALL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi, Many thanks for the picture, I only got the runner the right way round on the first crane by luck so don't feel to bad! This build is a quick and dirty for a mate to get the general feel of the crane and to give the hook somewhere to stay. On my original one it does look odd having it just laying on the runner. On the Mk2 build I shall be doing a scratch built runner wagon as it is the only bogey that is too short, by almost a 3rd! This will allow a much deeper and longer pocket (I hope!) Ref the jib articulation I think the only way to get it to work on 2nd radius curves with the runner bracket the correct width is to copy the prototype and have a floating bearing/joint at the base of the jib. Shouldn't be too tricky to sort with a metal bar and suffiently deep forks to ride on it. Love to see the rest of your crane, judging from the match wagon should be a nice build. Cheers Matt Matt, Have tried the articulation on the jib, quite simple to carry out. You can easily achieve 15mm movement from the centre line in either direction at the support trestle. Unfortunately on second radius curves you need an additional 43mm I tried moving the pivot point further forward but you can’t achieve anything like 58mm from the centre line, the problem which I had not foreseen is the lateral movement of the match wagon itself as it moves around the bend in advance of the crane. When it returns to straight track the crane body is to one side and the jib the other which looks all wrong, have to get the filler out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly9 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hey Matt. Looking good pal. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 20140217_011715.jpg Matt Looking back over the tread I noticed you painted the top edges of the runner wagon with a thin band all aroud the edge and the remainder black to match the floor so that the edge appears thinner, very good trick I will try that myself. The thickness to the vertical sides of the wagon is one thing which I am not happy with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Just been playing catch up with this thread amazing job done there when you consider it started from nothing more than effectively a toy. Very inspiring job there my good man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Reminds me having this flag up on my notifications, I've got some support carriages to finish.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 2 carriages done, just the lima based generator van to finish fighting. For some reason I'm having paint issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted August 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2014 2 carriages done, just the lima based generator van to finish fighting. For some reason I'm having paint issues. 20140804_172647.jpg 20140804_172655.jpg 20140804_172705.jpg 20140804_172738.jpg thats some nice work there mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angell328 Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 Looking good Satan, what's up with the paint? You having reaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Looking good Satan, what's up with the paint? You having reaction? Paint applied exactly the same as it was on the Triang carriages, but some of it seems to stick better to later applied masking tape than the Lima carriage. In the last picture you can just make out a white patch towards the left of it where i masked it earlier today to do black on the chassis, then the yellow came up with the tape after. The Yellow has been on for about 2 months now. I have a small pot of yellow, i'll try brushing on the parts that need patching rather than risk masking again. Trying to thin down my 'project pile', this seemed an easy finish until the paint happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew s Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Just come across this thread, excellent job on the Hornby Crane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Final carriage received attention. Yellow paint has been patched up and transfers applied. insert crane here..... Less wasp stripes on the end of this one so I'll need to smile nicely at someone with a much steadier hand than mine to pick the pipe work back out. all 3 together: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted August 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2014 Looking really good there mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Looking really good there mate. cheers Phil. For some reason this last carriage doesn't look as grubs when finished compared to the Triang pair despite all the paint being the same. Oh well, nothing wrong with a little variation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted August 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2014 cheers Phil. For some reason this last carriage doesn't look as grubs when finished compared to the Triang pair despite all the paint being the same. Oh well, nothing wrong with a little variation. if you look at the average network rail train the paint variation is spectacular some times so youve modelled it perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Good evening mr Angel, how's it going? When you're about, I'm swapping office to 'Projects' on the less fun side (only plus side is i can now walk to work). Laters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Some great models here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy water Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Hi! Did mk2 get finished? Would be great to see, as I have just picked up a crane that will need detailing. (I will attempt it my self). Love the idea of raiding model tank kits for parts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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