Beresford Junction Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Obviously technically Berresfords pre-dates your layout but I know there a good number of buses preserved in their livery so plenty of excuse I do have some steam locomotives so I could have some special excursions, with buses laid on, and as you can see I'm not quite that meticulous about era's, so the more the merrier. Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Here is something from Hattons EFE Diecast Buses & Vehicles 35202 BET 36ft Leyland Leopard "Yorkshire traction" that would probably covert quite easily into 265 AUF - "one of three ex-East Kent Leyland Leopards bought in 1977, although they had been new to Southdown in 1963. Bodies were by Marshall. 265 AUF was withdrawn in 1981" - from Berresfords in the 1970's Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katier Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Slightly different body with smoother roofline and slightly different front end, but a little bit of kitbashing and yes it could work as a replica of :- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 A project for the dark winter evenings I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Tonight has been fiddling round with the track layout for the sidings at the far side. The decision to change has been due to 1) I had tried some live running with the DCC / live points etc. and it was all getting a bit hairy trying to control all of the loco's at once - yes I know I don't need to run five at once, but I did which ended up as a bit of a disaster, especially without motorised points. 2) reversing some of the wagons into the sidings ended up with repeated derailments - this was getting on my nerves So I decided to have the sidings so the locos could just turn into them, drop the wagons - using the Kadee's and uncouplers - when they're installed, then carry on. In this picture, the four lines to the right are the sidings and are all accessed off the main line - which can be seen in the second picture. The fifth line is the main line, and the sixth is a way of getting onto the other main line. This shows the two main lines and the connecting line. A slightly different view, showing the probable second station and looking the other way A couple more misc shots And an overview Still some track cutting to do to make it all work, and I've run out of points (again), so I can't finish off the loco yard (in the corner). The big question is what to do with that big area in the middle - perhaps a water feature - with fountains - now where have I seen one of those? Comments / suggestions welcome. Cheers Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonsey Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hi Phil, Just followed your thread; great work going on here. I like the lights in the Station terminus. With regards to that space in the middle of the board, have you considered a cement works such as that next to Purley Station? I always thought this was a good modelling project. It comprises a Head shunt and two sidings with one building where the raw materials are unloaded onto what appears to be a conveyor belt system which unloads raw materials into different silos where differnt grades of sand etc are stored. It would be a differnent kind of scenic break to your fiddle yard. Tbe control tower (presumably to the conveyor belt system) looks like it was made from an old signal box especially the elevation facing the station. You could pick up an old Airfix signal box kit and convert it to sit within a modified building. A little project for you! You will find pictures of what I am talking about on Bing Maps including birds eye views of the cement works. That's my two pence worth...Right I am going back to try and chip that Thomas! Cheers Sonsey 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katier Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Have you tried ballasting the trucks ( as a test fill with something like a few coins) as I read somewhere that lightweight trucks can cause problems as they don't press down on the track with sufficient force. I'd probably keep the area between the station and the goods sidings ( they are meant to be in view right? ) fairly light - maybe a simple road or similar. How about looking at Bescot for instance has a station, 'waste land' then marshalling yard and TMD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Have you tried ballasting the trucks ( as a test fill with something like a few coins) as I read somewhere that lightweight trucks can cause problems as they don't press down on the track with sufficient force. Thanks - I have tried that, and it did improve things, however I think it's to do with the mix and match of the couplings on all the various wagons - mainly old style Hornby and NEM, and since it's towards the back, i.e. about 3 feet away from the operator, I thought best to side step the issue and go for plan b as it were I'd probably keep the area between the station and the goods sidings ( they are meant to be in view right? ) fairly light - maybe a simple road or similar. How about looking at Bescot for instance has a station, 'waste land' then marshalling yard and TMD. Yes they're supposed to be in view, but there is a gap so I think I'll put a little mound / earthworks, so it's not just a big row of track. Perhaps some small trees / bushes. As for the big expanse, I like Sonseys idea about some kind of works - that could go right down the end and would add some height to what could be quite a flat layout otherwise - hence the bridge idea. Whatever it is, or even nothing as you say I think I've got enough track on there already ;-) Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hi Phil, Just followed your thread; great work going on here. I like the lights in the Station terminus. With regards to that space in the middle of the board, have you considered a cement works such as that next to Purley Station? I always thought this was a good modelling project. It comprises a Head shunt and two sidings with one building where the raw materials are unloaded onto what appears to be a conveyor belt system which unloads raw materials into different silos where differnt grades of sand etc are stored. It would be a differnent kind of scenic break to your fiddle yard. Tbe control tower (presumably to the conveyor belt system) looks like it was made from an old signal box especially the elevation facing the station. You could pick up an old Airfix signal box kit and convert it to sit within a modified building. A little project for you! You will find pictures of what I am talking about on Bing Maps including birds eye views of the cement works. That's my two pence worth...Right I am going back to try and chip that Thomas! Cheers Sonsey Hi Sonsey Thanks - just taken a look and an interesting project to fill up the space. A similar idea had come to me having seen the Westbury cement works in the March issue of Model Rail (on a smaller scale) - as I said to Katier, I think it needs something with height. Keep the ideas coming.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudie30 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hey Phil, It is coming on very nicely. My 2p worth or 2 cents if you wish is to landscape with some mounds and dips. Looking at the area you have got a nice canal would look very well in there. Some of these were put on elevated ground as well. I think water looks great on any layout. More bridges for ur layout. All your progress is making me look forward more to Easter and working on mine. Keep up the good work !!! Padraig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Here's my thoughts so far - green is grass/ hills to give some height. Against the backboard at the left is a retaining brick wall (in red) with some green banking at the top. Between that and the sidings is a road/track that will allow access to the loco sheds at the top left (track layout may change in this area to have direct access from the sidings. Then there's Padraig's idea of a canal / water feature (just so he can have his bridges of course) - in blue obviously. By putting this at a diagonal, a bit like the road bridge, it might break up what is a very linear look. A bit more hills at the very top. Oh and still a massive bit of nothing in the middle. Cheers Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudie30 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Not sure if your into Scalescenes but i found this today! http://www.scalescenes.com/products/T018-Narrowboats-and-lock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Not sure if your into Scalescenes but i found this today! http://www.scalescen...wboats-and-lock Good idea, or I could wait for the Container Ship that is coming soon - in late April / early May - to match their containers. Although how big is that going to be ?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 And I think I've just found my source for the concrete bridge - Scalescenes - purchased, downloaded and printed (single sided this time). All I now need is some of that Finnboard that Rammy was using - link I've also bought and downloaded the shipping containers from Scalescenes, so all I need is the ship! Then Beresford Junction would be like this: (I did as a joke but am strangely quite liking it) Padraig - is this enough water? Cheers Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Good idea with the large expanse of water but one small problem - how does the boat get in and out of the location? You will need to build a swing bridge now! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Good idea with the large expanse of water but one small problem - how does the boat get in and out of the location? You will need to build a swing bridge now! Yes - slight flaw to the plan - either the swing bridge or the submarine? I'm actually quite liking the design by Photoshop route. Cheers Pihil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudie30 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Give this guy a call for your ship!! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51782 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Give this guy a call for your ship!! http://www.rmweb.co....php?f=8&t=51782 Thanks - I like these pictures of the ship on the layout on CAOLISPORT (1980's railway operations) (Post 243), and looking through the whole thread I like the feeling of space. I was originally thinking of this kind of thing for the water- a river under bridges going out to the sea, again on CAOLISPORT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I just made this comment on another thread on here about water. But Troels has now done some serious water works on his layout and the results are stunning. http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32687&whichpage=19 He is working in 1:48 but the technique is applicable to any scale. Now all you need is a really big boat loading buses for export!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 I just made this comment on another thread on here about water. But Troels has now done some serious water works on his layout and the results are stunning. http://www.railroad-...87&whichpage=19 He is working in 1:48 but the technique is applicable to any scale. Now all you need is a really big boat loading buses for export!!!!! Hi Ian Thanks - the water looks fantastic - I might give it a try when I'm at that stage. Your bit about exporting buses reminded me of when I lived overlooking the docks in Southampton for a while in early 2007. It was fascinating seeing things come in and out. These were taken from the balcony of the flat: 66077 enters the docks to pick up it's load And returns a few minutes later with the empty car transporters before passing over the road (holding up a couple of busses) the traffic then returns to normal Perhaps I should try and model this ship, although if you count the number of containers and do the maths (approx 40 x 20ft containers long, i.e. 800ft x 1:76) , it would need to be about 10ft / 3.2m long in OO? I suppose I could do a 'low relief' ship, since the layout is only 10 ft long, and I might need to leave room for some railway stuff? Cheers Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorlander Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Nice to see a "Prestons of Potto" truck, i see them everyday. Keep up the good work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Tonight has been building a quick embankment. I decided that the low relief factories were destined for elsewhere, so needed something more as a backdrop. This is before: Then a quick bit of timber followed by some Metcalfe 'dressed gritstone' a bit of cardboard pained green ready for the hanging basket liner to be applied and hey presto (rather than Prestons of Potto that is). On to that ballasting now - honest ;-) Cheers Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Bit of a disaster - it turns out that the hanging basket liner I had lined up for the job has been used for - would you believe it - lining a hanging basket! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beresford Junction Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Eventually got hold of some hanging basket liner, so have added that: The joins in the dressed gritstone showed quite a lot so I decided to build some abutments (?) out of cat food box - my favorite modelling material As I had the pva out, I then I finally decided to lay a little ballast - not on the track as I still have to paint the rust on the rails. A question though - I've painted it all black inside the tunnel, but should I ballast a slight way in, as at the moment it's a bit of a harsh stop. Cheers Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudie30 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hey Phil, Great progress made over the weekend. That wall is looking great! Does the capping come with the metcalfe walling or what did you use? And to ansewer you question, I think you should ballast as much as you can into the tunnel, God knows how you will do it. I am going to come across the same issue! I may need to use photoshop before posting pictures!! Padraig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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