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I have done this. The numbers come off easily enough but the weathering in the area will come off too.

The weathering on this loco is not the greatest but the hardest part of the process is to re-weather the affected area and blend it in.

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Be aware though!

 

If you base model is 50002 then strictly speaking you can't renumber it to 50030. 50002 is in revised "dark" NSE blue, whereas 50030 was withdrawn in lighter shade and never carried this livery. Indeed Repulse was a bit of an odd ball as at some point the No.1 end cab was patch repainted in NSE dark blue - which was noticeably different to the rest of the loco!

 

Dark NSE blue was carried by:

 

50002

50005

50009

50017

50023 (No white around cabs)

50024 (though only for a matter of months!)

50027 (final few months)

50029

50033 (No white around cabs)

50035 (No white around cabs)

50037

50043

50045

50048

 

Hope that helps,

Bruce

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Be aware though!

 

If you base model is 50002 then strictly speaking you can't renumber it to 50030. 50002 is in revised "dark" NSE blue, whereas 50030 was withdrawn in lighter shade and never carried this livery. Indeed Repulse was a bit of an odd ball as at some point the No.1 end cab was patch repainted in NSE dark blue - which was noticeably different to the rest of the loco!

 

Dark NSE blue was carried by:

 

50002

50005

50009

50017

50023 (No white around cabs)

50024 (though only for a matter of months!)

50027 (final few months)

50029

50033 (No white around cabs)

50035 (No white around cabs)

50037

50043

50045

50048

 

Hope that helps,

Bruce

Hi Bruce indded, but you missed off 50016 Barham and how could you miss the mighty 50034 Furious :rolleyes: Furious had 434 in white on one end near buffer beam see pics.Also Collingwood ran around unbranded Oct 1990 till Nov and Furious and Ark Royal had no NSE flashes in either headcode box.

And for good measure Repulse, can not find pic of no 5 but got it somwhere.

What is with this no white buisiness no RNSE 50 had white windows

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Hi Bruce indded, but you missed off 50016 Barham and how could you miss the mighty 50034 Furious :rolleyes: Furious had 434 in white on one end near buffer beam see pics.Also Collingwood ran around unbranded Oct 1990 till Nov and Furious and Ark Royal had no NSE flashes in either headcode box.

And for good measure Repulse, can not find pic of no 5 but got it somwhere.

What is with this no white buisiness no RNSE 50 had white windows

 

I think he means the white band above the cab windscreen, some locos didn't have the cantrail white band extending all the way around the loco. Someone else maybe able to correct this but it did seem to be Old Oak repaints that didn't have the windscreen band.

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Hi Bruce indded, but you missed off 50016 Barham and how could you miss the mighty 50034 Furious :rolleyes: Furious had 434 in white on one end near buffer beam see pics.Also Collingwood ran around unbranded Oct 1990 till Nov and Furious and Ark Royal had no NSE flashes in either headcode box.

And for good measure Repulse, can not find pic of no 5 but got it somwhere.

What is with this no white buisiness no RNSE 50 had white windows

 

 

I think he means the white band above the cab windscreen, some locos didn't have the cantrail white band extending all the way around the loco. Someone else maybe able to correct this but it did seem to be Old Oak repaints that didn't have the windscreen band.

 

 

 

Correct - that is what I'm referring to something the photos of 34 and 35 shows quite clearly. However - I'm pretty sure 034 is not painted dark NSE but the original shade - as far as I know none of the Dark NSE locos had double arrows - either the WoE crest or nothing at all. 016 I'll grant you though wink.gif

 

Bruce

 

 

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Correct - that is what I'm referring to something the photos of 34 and 35 shows quite clearly. However - I'm pretty sure 034 is not painted dark NSE but the original shade - as far as I know none of the Dark NSE locos had double arrows - either the WoE crest or nothing at all. 016 I'll grant you though wink.gif

 

I too have always taken the carrying of a double arrow to mean light blue and not carrying one (assuming it had not been removed, see second pic of 50034 above) to mean dark blue. One exception seems to be the infamous 'Glourious' that had double arrows applied for a short while on the left of the nameplates prefixing Network SouthEast.

 

50034 in revised light blue is now on my to do list, the livery is far easier to apply without the white around the top of the cab windows!!!

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I'm pretty sure 034 is not painted dark NSE but the original shade - as far as I know none of the Dark NSE locos had double arrows - either the WoE crest or nothing at all.

 

Bruce, 50034 went from Original NSE to dark NSE in October 1989, so it never carried the intermediate light NSE.

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