Free At Last Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 While you had the front tank off did you sus anything as to why the front lamp looks dim? I was wondering if the led was not lining up properly with the lens in the lamp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2014 While you had the front tank off did you sus anything as to why the front lamp looks dim? I was wondering if the led was not lining up properly with the lens in the lamp. It's witchcraft... No I haven't really looked at it in too much detail to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Lovely to see some improvements from several people to these models. Can't wait to see 47994 in standard BR guise! I have a couple of pictures with more editing showing various details but of course they are pictures, not actual modelling. The more I look at pics of the prototypes the more things I see missing from the models, mostly minor though. The area under the bunker on the fireman's side is a minefield, lots of little things could/can be done there. Overall a great deal of fun, although my sanity is in question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Of course it had to happen, I have edited-in the various bits mentioned above, darkened bits, played with tone, colour, contrast... added bunker rail extension, various pipes, paraphernalia around bunker rotating-mechanism, reversed and re-sized emblem, and generally enjoyed myself. I love the model, broken bits very minor irritations, and enjoy making my pictures. So I will keep doing it and hope some enjoy the days of freezing wind, rain and coal trains and engine sheds where you were chased away by foremen, and maybe if you were lucky got a short ride in the cab of an engine with a generous driver, and surly fireman.... I hope toboldlygo your talents with weathering will be displayed soon. Cheers, Rob edit; what magnificent machines! Imagine the above engine leaving the shed, pressure up, injector on, about to take 87 loaded coal wagons towards the South in foul darkening weather... rods flashing in the remaining light as the engine glides past, hissing and huffing with a quiet background roar. Not even clanking. But it will be when it reaches Elstree many hours later, rods, bearings and motion all very warm. Edited August 11, 2014 by robmcg 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) So I did this as well.... celebrations, 47996 is now in the country...! This one based on some of the many pics in Irwell's tome showing Garratts at speed, always with endless lines of wagons in tow. Edited August 11, 2014 by robmcg 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 I hope toboldlygo your talents with weathering will be displayed soon. I had one last job to do, which was to fabricate the missing lamp iron. I did this late last night, so once I've done a bit of masking on it, I can get started on it in the paint-shop. It's going to take a lot long than normal to weather as I initially need to spray the boiler and bunkers separately as I don't want to get any varnish on the running gear, 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 Something in Nato Black perhaps? Bunkers and boiler back on and plugged back together, just need to make sure it all works, before weathering commences 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerjaeger Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 My replacement loco arrived this morning and I must admit to opening the box with some trepidation. Apart from a loose water filler cap and a bent handrail, everything was fine. It ran effortlessly straight from the box but stopped on a curve after two or three circuits. It did the same thing once or twice more so I removed it from the track and gave the wheels and pick ups a good clean to remove the excess of oil and paint from the weathering. Back on the track, it pulled away without a sound and ran sweetly in both directions for a good 3 hours. While it does have some build quality issues, we can't complain at the price; it provides a good basis for super detailing and/or weathering. Hatton's service has been superb as usual and they should be congratulated for commissioning this icon. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 Still some way to go, but all the airbrushing is done 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I wouldn't mind if Heljan gave me my model in that weathered condition, looks class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Still some way to go, but all the airbrushing is done 47994_nearlyweathered.jpg Looking beautiful, and I especially like the sanding gear as it appears from that angle. I agree this is what would have been nice from Heljan, but as others have said, there was no price premium, and it's nice to weather things to one's own preference. edit; p.s. I can just read the numbers, just.... excellent! Edited August 11, 2014 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 Still some way to go, but all the airbrushing is done 47994_nearlyweathered.jpg Hi. That looks really good, even though the weathering is not yet finished. I really thought that the Heljan/Hattons heavily weathered version would have been something like that! All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 Of course it had to happen, I have edited-in the various bits mentioned above, darkened bits, played with tone, colour, contrast... added bunker rail extension, various pipes, paraphernalia around bunker rotating-mechanism, reversed and re-sized emblem, and generally enjoyed myself. I love the model, broken bits very minor irritations, and enjoy making my pictures. So I will keep doing it and hope some enjoy the days of freezing wind, rain and coal trains and engine sheds where you were chased away by foremen, and maybe if you were lucky got a short ride in the cab of an engine with a generous driver, and surly fireman.... 47981_Garratt_new_weathered_portrait_44abc_full_r1200a.jpg I hope toboldlygo your talents with weathering will be displayed soon. Cheers, Rob edit; what magnificent machines! Imagine the above engine leaving the shed, pressure up, injector on, about to take 87 loaded coal wagons towards the South in foul darkening weather... rods flashing in the remaining light as the engine glides past, hissing and huffing with a quiet background roar. Not even clanking. But it will be when it reaches Elstree many hours later, rods, bearings and motion all very warm. What a wonderful pic! Best yet from Rob? Real work of art. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks very much Joseph, I can never tell how others see my pictures. Sometimes I go back and look at what I did a month ago and think, 'gawd! how did I do that so badly?' ... or well, depending on my mood. Cheers, and are we not all waiting for toboldlygo's finished 47994 ! I have 47996 pics likely later this week. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 Cheers, and are we not all waiting for toboldlygo's finished 47994 ! Hopefully tomorrow at some point!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I got my BG from Hatton's via DHL over the weekend. The only problem was the loose filler cap. It looks and runs great, but... like some others have commented, it derails on some of my Peco points, including trailing straight points. I have looked closely but can't see anything touching the rails like has been noted. I read all the other comments about the same issue but decided not to deal with it at this point since my fiddle yard isn't large enough to handle another freight train anyway. It will go on display on a shelf and then at some point, if I can ever make a larger fiddle yard, deal with it then. It is a great model and I'm pleased with it, but in hindsight should not have got it at this point. Yeah well, such is life. lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Hopefully tomorrow at some point!! Pleased to hear it, my 47996 fell onto my doorstep just 5 minutes ago... all the pleasures ahead... more coffee! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Dear All, I OWE HATTONS and Heljan an APOLOGY. Putting 47981 back into its box I saw a small black smudge under the end of the pivoting plastic housing end, the end flap part... barely visible but in good light, a weathered buffer head and shank. How did I miss that? I am so EMBARRASSED! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Here then is the new 47996, also 47981 with intact buffer... 47996 has perhaps a little more dirty brown/grey on the sides/boiler, but less grime on the top. But less over numbers... Edited August 12, 2014 by robmcg 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) With much trepidation, after what has been said on here regarding performance, the beast was given a run on the DRAG test track last night. At first there was a very hesitant performance with inexplicable stopping here and there and some de-railments on the Peco pointwork, though they are old and a bit coarse when the loco has relatively fine flanges. First thoughts were that it would have to go back for replacement, but after a while the stopping and starting ceased and it ran smoothly and quietly. A very impressive machine, so hats off to Heljan and Hattons for being so bold in producing this delight. I've yet to clean off all the crud on the treads (looks like mostly weathering paint). Extensive running-in will be done before any attempt is made to remove of the wheels sets for conversion. It looks as if it is feasible if I can figure out how to remove the keeper plates (they look like that's what they are!....no screws). The plan is to drill out and gently ream 1/8th > 2mm bushes and fit to the Ultrascales in order to use the existing axles. They look to be 2.5mm but can't be sure until they're out of the frames. A few alterations to the body will need to be done like new smaller numbers and the correct BR logo and the extension of the tender 'shelf' to the correct length and a very heavy weathering applied. All in all, greatly pleased with it after last night. 'Little and Large!' Edited August 13, 2014 by Re6/6 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2014 With much trepidation, after what has been said on here regarding performance, the beast was given a run on the DRAG test track last night. At first there a very hesitant performance with inexplicable stopping here and there and some de-railments on the Peco pointwork, though they are old and a bit coarse when the loco has relatively fine flanges. First thoughts were that it would have to go back for replacement, but after a while the stopping and starting ceased and it ran smoothly and quietly. A very impressive machine, so hats off to Heljan and Hattons for being so bold in producing this delight. I've yet to clean off all the crud on the treads (looks like mostly weathering paint). Extensive running-in will be done before any attempt is made to remove of the wheels sets for conversion. It looks as if it is feasible if I can figure out how to remove the keeper plates (they look like that's what they are!....no screws). The plan is to drill out and gently ream 1/8th > 2mm bushes and fit to the Ultrascales in order to use the existing axles. They look to be 2.5mm but can't be sure until they're out of the frames. A few alterations to the body will need to be done like new smaller numbers and the correct BR logo and the extension of the tender 'shelf' to the correct length and a very heavy weathering applied. All in all, greatly pleased with it after last night. 'Little and Large!' 001.JPG The numbers are in the wrong place for a start. They are too close to the outer ends, they should be central on the tanks. It will be interesting to see your solution for the tender 'shelf', moving the numbers lessens it a bit. And don't forget to add the missing lamp iron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) ...........It will be interesting to see your solution for the tender 'shelf', moving the numbers lessens it a bit. My thinking is to remove the six small triangular supports and extend the 'shelf' using suitable thickness plastic card. Make some new small supports, suitably spaced and finish the top with a strip of thin plastic card or more likely a strip of pre-painted 5 thou brass shimstock . As mentioned in an earlier post, this correction, along with moving/replacing of the numbers (they do look a bit large) will allow the characteristic vertical stain to be reproduced passing through the fourth numeral (2nd on the other side!) Hadn't thought about the lamp bracket yet! Edited August 12, 2014 by Re6/6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2014 Basking in the afternoon sun... job done for now. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2014 Basking in the afternoon sun... job done for now. 47994_rhfan.jpg 47994_lhran.jpg Excellent job there. Looks really good. ..and there was me thinking that the 'heavily weathered' version that I'd ordered was going to look something like that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2014 Hi, Toboldlygo. That really is how a Garratt should look. The heavily weathered version really should have been like that, as I posted a little while ago. All the best, Market65. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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