making tracks Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Today I received the new Bachmann class 20 which has just been issued. They are now fitted with the Loksound V4 decoder, and it seems the sound files have been re-written, and it sounds much better. I fitted a bass speaker in place of the standard one and its quite a pleasing sound now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 That sounds postive. Any chance of you doing a vid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Yes, I'd love to hear the new sounds too, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
making tracks Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 heres a clip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Bevan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 That sound much better than mine which has the original recording! The thrash sound is never in sync with the acceleration of the loco!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I should be getting mine any day now. I'm curious as to whether this model has working lights. The original release didn't. I'll find out soon enough. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I should be getting mine any day now. I'm curious as to whether this model has working lights. The original release didn't. I'll find out soon enough. John Can confirm NO lights fitted as the original. Having one on test, sound quality is much better than the original, the sound is basically the latest SWD offering tweaked to Bach's desired spec/functions etc One thing i did notice was that the actual CV settings/reading were different to the settings on the supplied basic CV list. Out of the box I found it ran rather oddly, with the engine notching up too soon, and when stopping the rail joint "clack clack" could still be heard. After a lot of playing around with CV 3 4 5 and 6 it behaved better, still not sure If I like this "rail clacking" or not ? A better quality speaker with enclosure would no doubt improve the sound further. Good range of horn sounds. HTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Disappointing about the lights. I suppose I'll have to fit some. I daresay someone does a retrofit kit. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Is the clackety clack of the rail joints on a function that can be turned on and off separately or are you lumbered with it continuously when on the move? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Hi mcgomez. Its only continuous at lower speed settings. kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 That sounds much, much better than the previous Bachmann/SWD recordings, particularly when it reaches full thrash. However, the turbos on the overrun still don't sound quite right to me. Still a vast improvement though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Thanks for the reply Kev. Personally I don´t like the fact that it is not on a function, but that aside, it is a huge improvement over the old SWD chip from 3/4 years ago. It was the first sound chip I bought and installed and for a few months was great but the thrash got to me and I only rarely turn the sound on now. Time for a re-blow maybe? Do SWD still provide Bachmann with the sound files? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 yep, I've got the SWD one and it sounds just the same. kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hello, I have a very basic question. I'm just starting to sound up my locos and 1 of them is the class 20, in fact it will be my first sound loco. sooooooo will this chip work with my Lenz stuff and if so how do I know so I can check out my other loco needs? I had the pleasure of sitting 2ft from one to-day on the platform ar Bridgnorth and the sound is a very good match. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DFwrB9FxlI Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 The ESU sound decoders fitted by Bachmann (and, indeed, Hornby) will work perfectly well on your Lenz system. The whole idea with manufacturers following the NRMA standards fr their equipment is so that all decoders will work with all compliant command stations and controllers - the only system that may possibly have problems with this is Hornby's non-compliant Select sytem. The other thing that may get in the way is if yours is an older system it may not have access to higher function numbers but that won't stop you using most of the sounds, including the engine sounds and varous horns on the class 20. My initial forays into DCC used an old Lenz Compact controller so I could only get at functions 0 to 4. Most of Bachmann's sound locos don't use anything over about 9 or 10 but Hornby, SWD and Howes sometimes go higher (one of mine goes up to function 15). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I have a Lenz set up and now run Zimo Digitrain chips, here is their class 20, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTyb4-dCDU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 heres a clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvhxpepxSBc it IS better...... but I'll stick with where I am at the moment. Yet to hear anyone that really captures that Chopping sound under heavy load! Probably because no one has actually recorded one under heavy load? Next time DRS take 2 on a tour with 12+ carriages it might be a plan Bryan?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Thanks for the info gents. I do like the grunting and grinding on your clip cassey that would be great for my shunting plank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Thanks for the info gents. I do like the grunting and grinding on your clip cassey that would be great for my shunting plank. Barnaby, I can highly recommend this 20! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I take it all back! We had one on Devilla Colliery at the weekend and I am impressed. Clearly a whole new set of sound files, no silly spin cycle top end and generally a very pleasing Chopper. The only missing feature seems to be Bryan's coast / rev /coast that is so evocative of most EE traction that you get on the Howes chip. Under load I would say this recording is best yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoover50008 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Agreed the sound is much better than the previous offering. The clackety clack of the track is well annoying and has put me off getting one. Could easily have been avoided in my opinion. Think I'll stick with Howe's. E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I bought a Bachmann 20, it is 1000% better than the original - mind you it couldn't have been any worse! The rail joint noise goes off once you increase the speed step. Personally I think its good, certainly sounds better than my Howes 20 - which always sounded completely thin and tinny! There again both sound nowhere near as good as the Digitrains Zimo class 20 - this one actually sounds life like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoover50008 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I bought a Bachmann 20, it is 1000% better than the original - mind you it couldn't have been any worse! The rail joint noise goes off once you increase the speed step. Personally I think its good, certainly sounds better than my Howes 20 - which always sounded completely thin and tinny! There again both sound nowhere near as good as the Digitrains Zimo class 20 - this one actually sounds life like! It's across all speed steps only got to watch the video above. E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Yes it is, but less noticeable when the loco is actually on the layout pulling stock from mid to high thrash. And you can't hear it on coasting either. As I said earlier its still much better than the original and certainly sounds closer to a 20 than the Howes sound chip does, but neither of them two come close to the Digitrains Class 20 on a Zimo chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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