RMweb Gold SHMD Posted July 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2017 Politicians, lies and broken promises... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40692356 Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Politicians, lies and broken promises... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40692356 Kev. As there has been no announcement that the York-Leeds-Manchester electrification has been scrapped then that story is just a load of whingeing nonsense 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted July 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2017 I hope so. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I hope so. Kev. What's actually happening at the overbridge at Ashton Station? I know the line's closed from Stalyvegas to Manchester; drove past yesterday and there's civils vehicles all round Turner Lane, in the station, and on the station car park. The bridges look patially demolished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted July 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2017 What's actually happening at the overbridge at Ashton Station? I know the line's closed from Stalyvegas to Manchester; drove past yesterday and there's civils vehicles all round Turner Lane, in the station, and on the station car park. The bridges look patially demolished. Last Sunday I was in Ashton and a low loader went past with a huge chunk of iron bridge that had been 'gas axed' off the railway. I had assumed it was from the bridge over Turner lane as preparations had been going on for some time around it. Before the possession, loads of sleepers had been placed alongside the tracks at Ashton station. I'll try and get some pics but they'll be rubbish as they'll be taken from a lurching class142! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 A Last Sunday I was in Ashton and a low loader went past with a huge chunk of iron bridge that had been 'gas axed' off the railway. I had assumed it was from the bridge over Turner lane as preparations had been going on for some time around it. Before the possession, loads of sleepers had been placed alongside the tracks at Ashton station. I'll try and get some pics but they'll be rubbish as they'll be taken from a lurching class142! Kev. A blogger acquaintance of mine who lives in Dukinfield, reckons that there is a bit of track realignment going on, connected distantly with the electrification. Even after all these years, I still think it was a mistake to close the OAGB Jct.-Ashton Moss South Jct. curve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) I have an ex colleague who now drives for TPE, chatting the other day I mentioned the locohauled trains. No sign of any training yet and it's a 6 week programme, he's of the opinion that First could loose/hand in the keys. This could just be the excuse they want. Edited July 24, 2017 by w124bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 DRS are currently preparing the first few 68s at Crewe Gresty Bridge. The first set of mk5s isn't even ready at the factory yet and has to go to Velim etc before training starts here so there isn't necessarily a problem at TPE. I gave no doubt that First will be renegotiating their franchise payment profile as The contractual infrastructure improvements are either deferred or cancelled by HMG. So probably no 6th TPE per hour, IEP on diesel over the hills and north of Newcastle using more fuel, taking longer and needing more maintenance etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2017 A A blogger acquaintance of mine who lives in Dukinfield, reckons that there is a bit of track realignment going on, connected distantly with the electrification. Even after all these years, I still think it was a mistake to close the OAGB Jct.-Ashton Moss South Jct. curve. On the other side of the country, Micklefield junction has recently been realigned as well, to allow higher speeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2017 Loosely related to the Electrification of the line between Manchester and Leeds is the opening of the chord at Salford yesterday (Sunday the 10th of Dec 2017). Saturday night I attended the works Xmas do and stayed in a hotel, in city centre Manchester, overnight. The next morning I checked the timetable for trains back to Stalybridge and was intrigued to see a routing from Man-Victoria to Stalybridge via Oxford Rd. Well, I thought, I'm up for that. (Extract only) Not something I'd seen on a destination board at Victoria before. The trusty stead hunk a junk awful loathsome piece of..... appeared. This was a four car train with the trailing unit being a (not much better) class 150. I choose to sit at the back in the 150 hoping that the window was clean. There were quite a few "suits" present on the platform and the train came in well patronised. Anyway, we were to use the new chord at Salford! An absolute bonus for me as I had no idea Sunday was to be the first day of passenger use of this new route. Already in the curve and just at the start of the rusty bridge. ...and the other side. The whole time spent on the new railway was just a few 10s of seconds. At Deansgate Station, a scheduled stop, we were delayed for 4 minutes while a Liverpool bound train cleared Platform 5 at Oxford Rd for us. At Oxford Rd's platform 5 (the only bay platform there) we all alighted including toffs, photographers, TV crew, me and some others. I don't know who the toffs were but they must have had a better ticket than me as the had the whole leading carriage reserved! The connection (excuse the pun)? is that some of TPEs airport trains will use this route instead of running into Piccadilly and reversing there. Kev. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Well that is going to confuse me, the only trains to use Platform 5 (except during engineering possessions elsewhere) are the Manchester to Liverpool via Warrington Central stoppers. Note to self: don't jump on any train anymore I don't want a ride to Stalyvegas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2017 Well that is going to confuse me, the only trains to use Platform 5 (except during engineering possessions elsewhere) are the Manchester to Liverpool via Warrington Central stoppers. Note to self: don't jump on any train anymore I don't want a ride to Stalyvegas No you won't! - You'll end up somewhere on the Calder Valley line to Bradford / Leeds! (I changed train to catch the usual Liverpool-Scarborough 12:07.) In other news, the "masts are a marching" up Platting Bank and there now seems to be a permanently stabled 350-shunt (class 09!!! number 09 009) at the electrification siding, near Miles Platting station, at the site of the concrete works that used to receive the bogie ICI stone hoppers over many decades. Kev, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 No you won't! - You'll end up somewhere on the Calder Valley line to Bradford / Leeds! (I changed train to catch the usual Liverpool-Scarborough 12:07.) In other news, the "masts are a marching" up Platting Bank and there now seems to be a permanently stabled 350-shunt (class 09!!! number 09 009) at the electrification siding, near Miles Platting station, at the site of the concrete works that used to receive the bogie ICI stone hoppers over many decades. Kev, formerly known as collyhurst street sidings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I don't want a ride to Stalyvegas Not even for the buffet bar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted December 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2017 Loosely related to the Electrification of the line between Manchester and Leeds is the opening of the chord at Salford yesterday (Sunday the 10th of Dec 2017). Saturday night I attended the works Xmas do and stayed in a hotel, in city centre Manchester, overnight. The next morning I checked the timetable for trains back to Stalybridge and was intrigued to see a routing from Man-Victoria to Stalybridge via Oxford Rd. Well, I thought, I'm up for that. Sunday101217a.png (Extract only) Not something I'd seen on a destination board at Victoria before. 20171210_113549.jpg The trusty stead hunk a junk awful loathsome piece of..... appeared. This was a four car train with the trailing unit being a (not much better) class 150. I choose to sit at the back in the 150 hoping that the window was clean. 20171210_113853.jpg There were quite a few "suits" present on the platform and the train came in well patronised. Anyway, we were to use the new chord at Salford! An absolute bonus for me as I had no idea Sunday was to be the first day of passenger use of this new route. Already in the curve and just at the start of the rusty bridge. 20171210_114415(0).jpg ...and the other side. 20171210_114420.jpg The whole time spent on the new railway was just a few 10s of seconds. At Deansgate Station, a scheduled stop, we were delayed for 4 minutes while a Liverpool bound train cleared Platform 5 at Oxford Rd for us. At Oxford Rd's platform 5 (the only bay platform there) we all alighted including toffs, photographers, TV crew, me and some others. 20171210_115457a.png I don't know who the toffs were but they must have had a better ticket than me as the had the whole leading carriage reserved! 20171210_115745.jpg The connection (excuse the pun)? is that some of TPEs airport trains will use this route instead of running into Piccadilly and reversing there. Kev. You absolute star, what brilliant coverage of this unique event for Manchester (hope you did not have a hangover). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Had trip into Manchester from Newton for Hyde today, off to Central Library. Noticed a couple of civil engineering vehicles on the Mayfield Station site; a stone train propelling into the yard at Ashbury's; and what looks like vegetation clearance between Hyde Junction and Guide Bridge East, on the site of what were the Dewsnap yard reception roads; any ideas on the last? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2018 No idea about those works but there is mention in the latest Modern Railways to say that the grid connector just east of Stalybridge has been commissioned and will be able to supply power t the Manchester Victoria area as well as the future Trans Pennine electrification. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2018 Had trip into Manchester from Newton for Hyde today, off to Central Library. Noticed a couple of civil engineering vehicles on the Mayfield Station site; a stone train propelling into the yard at Ashbury's; and what looks like vegetation clearance between Hyde Junction and Guide Bridge East, on the site of what were the Dewsnap yard reception roads; any ideas on the last? No idea, but I wonder if they found that old semaphore signal that was still in there. The stone train was possibly the one from Briggs Sidings to Ashburys I saw when i was driving through Buxton at lunch time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 You may or may not be aware of the publication of this a week or so ago. http://transportforthenorth.com/wp-content/uploads/TfN-Strategic-Plan_draft_lr.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 You may or may not be aware of the publication of this a week or so ago. http://transportforthenorth.com/wp-content/uploads/TfN-Strategic-Plan_draft_lr.pdf is that the meeting that John Prescot walked out of quoting it as a load of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just been announced again this week, transport funding for the NW, NE, Yorkshire and Humberside is 2.5 times LESS per person than that allocated to London and the SE. That's PER PERSON too........... Continues to disgust me. The Northern Power House is renamed the Northern Poorhouse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Having driven from Manchester to Liverpool today I can state it is not only the railways that are underfunded, potholes everywhere including on the motorways. Whilst the Government gladly spends money upgrading motorways to 'Smart' status aka covering the network with speed cameras it is letting the rest of the network crumble. There needs to be a fundamental cross party debate on how a rich country like ours has insufficient funds to keep everything in good order health, social, transport and infrastructure - maybe more consumption based taxation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Having driven from Manchester to Liverpool today I can state it is not only the railways that are underfunded, potholes everywhere including on the motorways. Whilst the Government gladly spends money upgrading motorways to 'Smart' status aka covering the network with speed cameras it is letting the rest of the network crumble. There needs to be a fundamental cross party debate on how a rich country like ours has insufficient funds to keep everything in good order health, social, transport and infrastructure - maybe more consumption based taxation. Totally agree with you on this post and whilst we might well be a rich country there are too many greedy pigs in the trough which leaves nothing of the basic repairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 Having driven from Manchester to Liverpool today I can state it is not only the railways that are underfunded, potholes everywhere including on the motorways. Whilst the Government gladly spends money upgrading motorways to 'Smart' status aka covering the network with speed cameras it is letting the rest of the network crumble. There needs to be a fundamental cross party debate on how a rich country like ours has insufficient funds to keep everything in good order health, social, transport and infrastructure - maybe more consumption based taxation. M6 and M60 surface around Manchester is a joke for a motorway, but probably better than most main roads in the area. The Snake Pass road is heading south again on the east side descent, much more and it will end up like the Mam Tor road.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 M6 and M60 surface around Manchester is a joke for a motorway, but probably better than most main roads in the area. The Snake Pass road is heading south again on the east side descent, much more and it will end up like the Mam Tor road.. living on the western side of the pennines i can state that this is pretty much standard on all the main cross pennine roads 50mph limit on pothole strewn patched up badly maintained flooded "highway"upto the yorks border then boom 100yds into yorkshire and its NSL and a smooth well drained highway thats a pleasure to drive along Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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