RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2014 See attached for modern crosings - signs just on right hand side of the road but htink that where there is a reasonable gap between tracks there are extr signs on the right hand side. Whether this is different to the period that Ray has modelled I am not sure. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=railroad+crossing+photos&client=firefox-a&hs=npE&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=np&biw=1600&bih=789&tbm=isch&imgil=bA5pNvLWyRY_-M%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcRs4DGOx19kq5ECAq1EaoJ6OWR9u_8XH7JAU_jwNbXUp2BQ3xD5Hw%253B600%253B450%253BTPKWF1--ZV_hBM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.soundecoadventure.com%25252FAnchWhit%25252FTracksAfterTurnoff.html&source=iu&usg=__lzJ3vVBUUQVb3KPgWrWvTTgHFPM%3D&sa=X&ei=RMZ1U4f6McS3O6aOgKAM&ved=0CD4Q9QEwCA#facrc=_&imgdii=bA5pNvLWyRY_-M%3A%3BiW5nWkfPVAj88M%3BbA5pNvLWyRY_-M%3A&imgrc=bA5pNvLWyRY_-M%253A%3BTPKWF1--ZV_hBM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.soundecoadventure.com%252FAnchWhit%252FTracksAfterTurnoff.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.soundecoadventure.com%252FAnchWhit%252FTracksAfterTurnoff.html%3B600%3B450 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Ray, Make some "dummy" cross bucks for the ones that would face toward the backscene - no one is going to see that they have no "RAILROAD CROSSING" text on them from the front. Then use the two you already have as the forward facing ones - save you some money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) ...... and some also have a small sign attached to the post below the crossbuck telling how many tracks there are to be crossed sorry this is not terribly clear, but it is the best I could do at short notice Edited May 16, 2014 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Thanks guys for the imput. Ian them's the photo's i found,which were no help,until Nicks explaination. Daniel all ready done that with the other cross buck,will have to make a new one Jack take a look at the photo on the previous page, done that Well got to go soon and pack the layout in the car,so we can get a early start, for a early setup and of to the pub hotel!! Ray Edited May 16, 2014 by long island jack 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If you put a crossbuck on both sides of the track (it is a bit of distance between the tracks) then you will have to remove the 2 tracks number plate since there is only one track between the signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hi Ray I think Andy means a single cross-buck on each side of each track, the guy in the black car could stop at the warehouse in between. If someone else moved the car for him they wouldn't have seen the cross-buck. Nick If you put a crossbuck on both sides of the track (it is a bit of distance between the tracks) then you will have to remove the 2 tracks number plate since there is only one track between the signs. Yes and yes. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highpeak Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The current Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) states "Where the distance between tracks, measured along the highway between the inside rails, exceeds 100 feet, additional signs or other appropriate traffic control devices should be used to inform approaching road users of the long distance to cross the tracks." Some example signs are at http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part8/fig8b_04_longdesc.htm The 1948 MUTCD contained similar language: "The distance that should be assumed to separate tracks before an additional crossing sign is considered necessary is 100 feet, unless local conditions require otherwise." https://ceprofs.civil.tamu.edu/ghawkins/MUTCD-History_files/1948%20MUTCD/1948-Pt1b_Signs_Warning_Guide.pdf see section 89. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Well i've done it,i've final won something,the only other thing i've ever won was a wet teashirt competition and that was by default, someone knocked my pint over and i couldn't stop crying all night!! Thank to all the L&Y DCC members and committee who voted my layout best in show,i'm really chuffed,all that hard work has payed off. Also thanks to the paying public for all the kind comments(it looks better than the photo's). For a change it was nice to talk to people who were interested in American railroads and the techniques i'd used to create my slice of America and not once did i hear "it's only another American layout" Time to celebrate with a cup of tea(had enough beer for the weekend,with the Barrow gang and the Oldham lads and the rest of us jameaters!!!) Ray P.S sorry about the cheesey smile Edited May 18, 2014 by long island jack 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Ray A well deserved win. I guessed that you would have been with the Barrow team in the evening. See you in a few weeks at TVNAM> Ian Edited May 19, 2014 by roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Sincerely, mate, well done and well deserved! Maybe we are finally educating the public! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Congrats from me too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Nice one, well done - and well deserved! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveB Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Richly deserved. I'm coming up to TVNAM to see this layout for real. Not to be missed! Well done. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Please say hi when you do attend Dave, I'll be there exhibiting Cane River as well. Always nice to meet fellow RMWebbers. But I totally agree, I'm just pondering how I can sneak away from my layout for a bit to gawp at all the incredible layouts which will be there - including 59th and Rust - one of the layouts that got me back into US modelling and has inspired me soooooooo many times in so many different ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Well done, definitely deserved. But it is only another American layout.... Edited May 19, 2014 by Talltim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Sincerely, mate, well done and well deserved! Maybe we are finally educating the public! I definitely like the layout, ......but where does the education come into this? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Also thanks to the paying public for all the kind comments(it looks better than the photo's). For a change it was nice to talk to people who were interested in American railroads and the techniques i'd used to create my slice of America and not once did i hear "it's only another American layout" Ray Andy, This refers to "Educating" the public - it is standard practice at UK shows to have punters walk past saying " Don't bother with that - it's just another American layout!" Edited May 19, 2014 by shortliner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 OK. I understand better now. Not something I've experienced, due to my location of course. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 At least when they do say that, well you aren't going to be swamped by visitors and might actually have fun playing trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 It's one comment that we SHOULDN'T get at TVNAM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 It's one comment that we SHOULDN'T get at TVNAM!Surely that's one of the few shows in the UK where you get to say 'another American layout' ! (Unless it's Canadian/Mexican of course) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 Thanks guys, for the kind comments,hope you all won't be disapointed when you see it at TVNAM. The wife gave my trophy pride of place,on the back of the little boys room door,seeing i spend a lot of time in there!!!!!!!!!!!!! See you at Tvnam, hope to have the crossbucks done by then! now i can say"just another award winning American layout" Ray 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 SNIP now i can say"just another award winning American layout" Ray And "Y'all come up and see it some time" Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Hooray for Ray! Very well deserved. You have a great eye, man c/w skilled fingers! Oo,er, mother......... I’d jolly well like to see this layout, in person. Also one of the most entertaining threads on RMWeb. Double Whammy. Best, Pete. Edit: Stupid American piece of hyperbole removed.... Edited May 20, 2014 by trisonic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Surely an airfare is more attractive than a few years on death row, followed by a terminal experience? I’d wait until I got to the UK - a couple of years free B&B instead.................. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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