ess1uk Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 which depot would W5261 and W5308 have been allocated to? can't find my platform 5 book from the mid 1980's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted April 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 26, 2016 which depot would W5261 and W5308 have been allocated to? can't find my platform 5 book from the mid 1980's 1985 W5261 LA W5308 CW 1986 W5261 LA W5308 LL 1988 W5261 LA W5308 LL john 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) 1985 W5261 LA W5308 CW 1986 W5261 LA W5308 LL 1988 W5261 LA W5308 LL john found my 1989 Platform 5 coaching stock book and I make LA Laira LL Edge Hill Liverpool but it doesn't list CW only ask about these 2 numbers as they are on the Kernow Mk2s with the Blue/Grey and NSE markings in 1989 they are listed as: 5261 full NSE livery Solent and Sarum Sector NSSX at Laira 5308 full NSE livery Solent and Sarum Sector NSSX at Laira Edited April 27, 2016 by ess1uk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted April 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) CW is Cricklewood on the midland main line near london Both are still blue grey in 1988 John Edited April 27, 2016 by jbqfc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 CW is Cricklewood on the midland main line near london Both are still blue grey in 1988 John so have Kernow got the numbers wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Both my Ian Allan ABC 1988 combined and my Platform 5 1988 combined have 5308 as LA and still in blue and grey. Edited April 28, 2016 by Flood 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 so when would mk2a BFK 14080 have been renumbered to 17080? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Renumbering on TOPS was probably late 83, but the number on the side of the coach may have not been changed for some time. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Rule 1 leave it as 14080 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 So in a formation of 3TSO TSOT 2BFK 3TSO, which end of the buffet would be next to the BFK? Only guessing the buffet would be next to first class as that was split already by the brake compartments. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) so when would mk2a BFK 14080 have been renumbered to 17080? According to the Railway Observer it was in a batch four weeks ending 23 April 1983. They were all due to be done for the May timetable start but large numbers of coaches missed this cut off going by the observations and BR reports. Some Mk1 stock in particular were not renumbered until 1984. Looking at the notes the first two Western Region BFKs were renumbered by the end of February 1983 but the last one wasn't reported until the December. Edited June 12, 2016 by Flood 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) So in a formation of 3TSO TSOT 2BFK 3TSO, which end of the buffet would be next to the BFK? Only guessing the buffet would be next to first class as that was split already by the brake compartments. I've never really thought about it before and looking at photos on flickr it appears to be completely random. Also the formation could be 3 TSO, TSOT, 2 BFK, 3 TSO or 3 TSO, 2 BFK, TSOT, 3 TSO with trains running in the same direction. Basically I don't think it was ever that important. Edited June 12, 2016 by Flood 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Cheers Flood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 How's the rake of coaching stock coming along? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 How's the rake of coaching stock coming along?Getting there slowly. Need a few more and to sort out the renumbering. See my blog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 bump for this thread with a related question. on a South Wales to Portsmouth service, what would be a typical rake of coaches? would they be mk1 or mk2 around the mid 1980s? cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 bump for this thread with a related question. on a South Wales to Portsmouth service, what would be a typical rake of coaches? would they be mk1 or mk2 around the mid 1980s? cheers On my travels on that route in the 1980s I only ever experienced Mk1s. Paul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 You might find a mk2 'swinger'... but not often. mk1s were the order of the day... 5 coaches... 2 or 3 seconds (SKs or SOs) a BSK (or even BG) and CK normally lurked somewhere in the rake. On rare occasions perhaps a brake first might of provided the guards accommodation. I have seen a GUV in the formation occasionally too. Griff 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 bump for this thread with a related question. on a South Wales to Portsmouth service, what would be a typical rake of coaches? would they be mk1 or mk2 around the mid 1980s? cheers Try here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/16613-cardiff-bristol-portsmouth/page-2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 bump for this thread with a related question. on a South Wales to Portsmouth service, what would be a typical rake of coaches? would they be mk1 or mk2 around the mid 1980s? cheers I have quite a few photos on my Flickr thread from 1979-1985. The trains were formed of 5 or 6 mk1s, though on a few pictures there is a single mk2 in the rake. The only GUVs I photographed are in the Bristol - Weymouth trains which were usually 4 mk1s and a GUV, cheers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted December 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2016 I have quite a few photos on my Flickr thread from 1979-1985. The trains were formed of 5 or 6 mk1s, though on a few pictures there is a single mk2 in the rake. The only GUVs I photographed are in the Bristol - Weymouth trains which were usually 4 mk1s and a GUV, cheers Come to think of it... I think I saw the GUV at Bradford on Avon so could have been on a Weymouth service. Griff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I have quite a few photos on my Flickr thread from 1979-1985. The trains were formed of 5 or 6 mk1s, though on a few pictures there is a single mk2 in the rake. The only GUVs I photographed are in the Bristol - Weymouth trains which were usually 4 mk1s and a GUV, cheers ThanksGreat photos 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Related questions On the West of England line mk2 coaches, where was the logo? Was it applied at the start of NSE or was it a later thing? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted July 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2018 Although they obviously didn’t predate NSE livery they appeared in great numbers on both mk1 (including MUs) and mk2 as an addition to Blue and Grey..... they were at the left hand end. I’m currently looking for a picture of a mk1 bck in Blue and Grey.... I’ve seen a picture of one wearing NSE flashes at the head of a West of England service circa 1992.... would love to know it’s identity? I think it was a coach allocated to the Thames Valley at Old Oak but I’d love to know more. Griff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Ah so you could get a blue grey coach with NSE flashes and the line logo? I just thought they were on the full NSE livery stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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