George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 As promised on my Aldersgate layout thread, I am showing the building of the side of the adjoining station "Broadgate". This structure has less to do with the old Broad Street building and is more inspired by Alexander Palace Station. I am not putting this forward as the definitive world guide to model making but it's simply showing my way of doing this which I hope is a help to others As you can see I have stated with one element of the building and employed my trusty photocopier to provide me with multiple elements for the full length. I have pasted on the windows which in the final form will be transparent sheets At this point it is a sort of mock up of itself which is used to assessed the general feeling of scale and site to ensure I am getting what I originally imagined from this building for the whole scene. Then I start with the trusty Scalescenes brickpaper, this time brown brick. (much) more to follow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job's Modelling Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Looks very good. How do you create the windows after doing the stone work? I like to see the progress in building the structure. Gives me an impression how other card modellers work and I can see what I can use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Job, As I upload the rest of the pictures it will hopefully become clear. I have had some problems posting the images but I know the team at RMWeb are working on uploading issues and so I will try later. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 So the first panels of brick go on and are offered up again to the scene Then back to the workbench and cut out the windows again Back on the layout to see how that looks Start adding in the pillars and some initial stone moulding How does that look? Too much stone, not enough. At this point I am improvising against the original idea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Back to the layout for some more orientation! And then to start on the windows. It was at this point that I realised that I had cut the holes slightly too small and therefore had to print the glazing out at 87% (!) of the standard print size. It was at this point also that I considered just having the windows bricked in and started working up a "back story in my own mind to justify this!! Common sense and patience prevailed and I then filled in the brickwork below the windows. It would have looked too heavy to have the arches full of brick. Coping stones and brick arches then added before the window are to be put in. I did this with a long ruler marking a line behind (seen in rear photo above) to ensure that the brick within the arches ended in a straight line when one looks at the whole thing in perspective as in these shots ..to be continued... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 OK, actually I could not face the windows again so I amused myself with stonework and decoration. This was all improvised until it looked right. I have used foamboard strips and some Geman product (Noch?) which is styrene foam moulded into carved stone surfaces and is very easy and forgiving to work with Lastly, in went the windows with only a small amount of foul language I am still looking for some more stone decoration but will wait until I find the right thing, decapitated toy soldiers for statues, plastic offcuts, packaging who knows? A last job is to do some stone research and see if I can improved the colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 And following my normal habit of starting the next thing before the last is finished... If anyone knows Shoreditch High Street, these might look suspiciously like the row of shops which butt up against the Norton Folgate power station which has already appeared as a low relief structure on the layout. If you have been, thanks for watching. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Superb! I always look forward to updates to your layout, Andrew! My cousin Mike, who is not a railway modeller, recognised what you were doing straightaway. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Ah Mr Sonic, thanks for the input. I am over to London for a couple of days next week which probably means that I will be found hanging about in the Bishopsgate area looking like I am up to no good with my camera and measuring stick. I sometimes wonder if I am in a science fiction film in which there is an alien spaceship buried under Liverpool Street station and producing an unearthly force field drawing me in. (no honestly, I haven't had one drop this evening). Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I still think it is the most attractive Station in London - considering its massive thruput too.........It processes the third highest amount of passengers in town and has alway been grossly underrated and under-photoed. I highly recommend (I received my copy just before Christmas) "London's East End Railways Part 1" by D. Brennand (Book Law Publications). The front cover has a marvelous painting by Malcolm Root entitled "Liverpool Street, the Continental Link" showing 70006 "Robert Burns" about to depart with "The Day Continental" to Parkeston Quay for the Hook. I highly recommend this book as it has scores of photos from Liverpool Street to Ilford incl. Temple Mills. The majority of which I certainly have not seen before...... Best, Pete. So good I used "highly recommend" twice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2012 So good I used "highly recommend" twice! What else would we expect from an Essex Boy living in NY, NY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2012 Some very nice work. Looking forward to seeing the completed layout. How do you do the glazing? You mentioned printing them? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Some very nice work. Looking forward to seeing the completed layout. How do you do the glazing? You mentioned printing them? Ian It's the scalescenes windows sheets printed on overhead projector acetate slides using a regular computer printer. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2012 Andrew Ok thanks for that. Will give that a go. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1962 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's the scalescenes windows sheets printed on overhead projector acetate slides using a regular computer printer. Andrew Ive tried using this method and it didnt work... the acetate just kept jamming and the ink smudged. Might just be the make of acetate i suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 In the past I have printed on to acetate sheets with no problem as have others. Without stating the obvious it may be something to do with inkjet or lazer ink, or just that your printer does not like either acetate film or the make you used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel2010 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ive tried using this method and it didnt work... the acetate just kept jamming and the ink smudged. Might just be the make of acetate i suppose. My printer didnt like acetate or card thicker than 190 g, my solution was tape acetate to a plain piece of copy paper to the back (still got to be acetate for ink jets), worked ok. For the thicker card i stick a half inch leader of copy paper at one end, goes through ok with that. My printer is a Epson sx405 and only two years old. My old printer also a Epson ,you could adjust for thicker papers, pity it gave up the ghost Edit : my printer was also set to draft in print settings for the acetate sheets. Did some stain glass windows last week with this method. Tel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ive tried using this method and it didnt work... the acetate just kept jamming and the ink smudged. Might just be the make of acetate i suppose. Please don't be offended, but were you 1 printing on the correct side of the acetate 2 using the correct OHP sheet for your printer [Laser doesn't work in ink-jet, and ink-jet will bu%%er a laser printer as earlier sheets melt] 3 setting your printer to 'ultra-glossy' [older printers had a 'transparency' setting, newer models assume you'll be using a projector interface and don't provide it] My new Epson ink-jet doesn't 'do' transparencies by choice,but Tel's method of giving the sheet an opaque 1/2" lead of copier paper works well enough Good luck, Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiseboy72 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I found on my laser I had to run them through a few times to get the black nice and dark. Its also a good way to get a bit of grime onto the windows as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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