rich34 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hi, to some this may seem like a silly question but i dont know the answer so gotta ask, the new Hornby hst in br blue/yellow scheduled for release 2nd quater is listed as been western region, is it just the tops number that identifys this or are there any other details i should be aware of as i rather fancy one but am modeling eastern region? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted January 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2012 hi Rich - from my spotting days I seemed to recall ER HSTs in the early '80s had 254xxx numbering rather than 253xxx for the sets? cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galtee More Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 When first introduced, and for many years afterwards, the WR HSTs were 2 x Power Cars + 7 x trailers. The ECML sets were 2 + 9. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I to wondered the same thing but I am still buying one and the coaches to run on my Northern layout. My layout My rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 ISTR that the reason for the set different number series was that originally the idea was that the ECML sets were to have a higher power rating to make up for the extra intermediate coach but in practice there was no difference as this was dropped. I don't think that there was any physical difference, the changes came later with the abolition of the guards compartments on later builds. The first GWML deliveries came without the roof deflector but these were later retro-fitted, I'm not sure if any of the ECML power cars were also new without deflectors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 ISTR that the reason for the set different number series was that originally the idea was that the ECML sets were to have a higher power rating to make up for the extra intermediate coach but in practice there was no difference as this was dropped. I don't think that there was any physical difference, the changes came later with the abolition of the guards compartments on later builds. The first GWML deliveries came without the roof deflector but these were later retro-fitted, I'm not sure if any of the ECML power cars were also new without deflectors. The difference between a 253 and 254 was the addition of an extra trailer, the higher power (another 250 HP) was abandoned as result of Western region experience with the Valentas. There are some other very subtle differences, like the cant rail grills being slightly different. There are some minor electrical variations that were retro fitted on the 253s. The Eastern and Scottish power cars were also delivered with out deflectors (these are now being removed on East Coast power cars). Regards Al taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Western set were 2+7, Eastern and Scottish 2+8 with the exception of the Tees Tyne Pullman which was 2+9. 2+9 did not become the norm on the ECML until 2002 or so when extra railer became available with Virgin releasing HSTs. Al Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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