Redditch 34 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 All I am looking to fit a decoderred to my Bachmann standard 4 mogul and my decoder of choice the tcs dp2x uk does not fit i dont really want to hack the underneath of the boiler barrel around so a alternative decoder the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'd recommend a Lenz Standard+. It costs about the same as the TCS DP2X-UK decoder but I've found it much better with Bachmann steamers. I assume you are talking about the 4-6-0 version which is the one which won't take the TCS decoder? It fits OK in the 2-6-0 version but again I'd suggest the Lenz Standard+ is preferable. I had the TCS decoder in both before I replaced with Lenz, and was very pleased with the better performance.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Most wire to plug decoders will fit as the space issue is just the height above the socket which rules out direct plug in ones likes. I also have a Lenz decoder in mine ( a Silver but only because I found it cheaper than a Standard). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 25, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yep, me too, I bought one S/H that had a Hornby cheapie installed, swapped it out for a Lenz Standard+ which fits in the boiler barrel. I think you have to remove the boiler weight though (it was already gone on the one I bought) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 25, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yep, me too, I bought one S/H that had a Hornby cheapie installed, swapped it out for a Lenz Standard+ which fits in the boiler barrel. I think you have to remove the boiler weight though (it was already gone on the one I bought) I believe removing the weight is in Bachmann's documentation for the 2-6-0. However, I've fitted Lenz Standard+ decoders in my one 4-6-0 and both 2-6-0s without having to remove the weight from any of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redditch 34 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hi Mine is the 2-6-0 an the chip does not fit just a but to wide i dont realy want to remove the boiler wieght as i assume this will have a negative affect on haulage. I have used tcs M1 assuming that will be ok with the current draw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combe Martin Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've fitted the ZTC258 into one Std 4 4-6-0 and 2 Std 4 2-6-0 s, and I used a small file to open out the opening in the underside of the boiler on both types. I seem to remember taking about half a mm off each side which didn't take very long and certainly dosn't notice. The TCS DP2X-UK is about the same width as the ZTC which is also a direct plug in decoder. The 2-6-0 circuit board is wired the wrong way round, so you have to plug the decoder in backwards as well. However, the biggest problem with the 2-6-0 is the 'pig' of a motor they've used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanj666 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The docs do say to remove the weight and fit the chip into the barrel. It's quite easy, considering how awkward I found getting the bodyshell off in the first place. One small screw holds the weight in place. My loco ran really well afterwards but I've not been able to test pulling power as my layout is being redesigned and built this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Not had haulage issues with any loco's I have had to remove weights from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby Line Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I bought the 2-6-0 with the factory decoder fitted. Runs perfectly, just a couple of cv changes. Eddie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Discovered today when dcc'ing a new one that pins 1 and 8 on the socket were linked together due to solder blobs shorted on the inside of the plastic baseplate - those to the black and yellow wires in this picture. So what should have taken a few minutes turned into a couple of hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Worth pointing out the decoder I used in this one was a Lenz Standard - undid the weight, removed the smokebox door, slid the weight out and using the sticky pad supplied by Lenz stuck it to the shelf on the weight and refitted it. Interestingly the smokedox door had no shed code printed on it (the current early BR version). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Reading the earlier comments in this thread something seemed not quite right so I looked at my earlier model, that has had a weight removed, but the current model has a larger single weight held by two screws with a built in ledge. Bachmann have changed the design at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Just to say the Ivatt 2-6-0 mogul has the same problem, not surprising as the prototype stabdard was based on the Ivatt mogul. I have a couple of decoders to try, and will post back on ther results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
70E Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I have the latest 2-6-0 version and fitted a TCS DP2X-UK with pretty erratic running, this is the second decoder with similar issues but strangely seem to work OK in a Hornby T9! Can anyone advise on a more reliable alternative that will fit the 2-6-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I've fitted the reasonably similar Ivatt 4MT mogul on two occasions with this decoder and it requires a few strokes of a file on the cut PCB edges to allow it to fit perfectly inside the aperture of the smokebox when assembled. Running is pretty OK too. Yes, I know it might sound rash taking a file to a decoder PCB, but there is enough meat along the sides to allow this. It is a reasonably fine cut file if that helps, but not a needle file of any sort. HTH, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Yes, I know it might sound rash taking a file to a decoder PCB, ... Yes rash, the fibreglass in the PCB will trash your file fairly quickly. So use a cheap one, not your best Swiss file. - Nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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