Mike G Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Hi The debate rages on about which coach coupling is the best...I had settled on kaydees (yet to fit them though) when another system (the one in the title) has been brought to my attention. I've used lots of Mike Clarks bits and they are great, fiddly but great. So, anyone used this system? If so what have you found and last of all any chance of a photo? cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Is this the one Chris Pendlenton used on his rake of mk1's in MRJ 200? I think the scale Kadee's will work just as well tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 TBH I don't know Craig, CP's I've seen in the flesh and whilst a brilliant idea, they are like AJ's - need an awful lot of care in setting up and not as simple as they appear. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnewitt Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The couplings Chris Pendleton developed for his Pullman gangwayed stock are different to the Masokits ones. The Masokits ones are a hook and pivoted loop arrangement. I've got some but haven't as yet used them so can't comment on how well the system works which I know is completely useless to you Mike! Having said that I haven't brought anything from Masokits that I have been disapointed with. The Chirs Pendleton 'boxhead' coupler etches are avaliable through Dave Bradwell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Justin I suppose all I really want to know is that they are not like the cast effort from Bill Bedford and Brassmasters - good as they are, they're not for me - whats really intrigued me is the description Mike gives them on the downloadable pdf "clip-in". Thanks for the info. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Mike, Ask Dave Holt how he got on with them. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/140/entry-8618-delph-holiday-excursion-a-bit-more-progress/ Morgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Ah Dave Bradwell produced the ones Chris used, my mistake. What's the minimum radii you want them for Mike? That seems to rule out some systems such as the brassmasters couplings. We had some run on Slattocks and they either fell off on the corners trying to tilt or were too far apart on the straight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Craig Min radius on LMJ is 46 inches. http://www.newportmrs.com/littlemilljunction.htm Good idea Morgan, I shall throw a PM that way... MIke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hopefully he can do a blog post on them in open forum rather than just via pm, there might be useful results for others. Slattocks will be down to about 40" when we lay the Bury inner lines off the junction. The outers are at about 47" and Paul's rake of mk1s to Morgans methods were happy on those. I need to try Sergent couplings in Kadee drag boxes at some stage. The Keen systems couplings might look ok too with some fake pipes either side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I need to try Sergent couplings in Kadee drag boxes at some stage. You and me both - I've got a stash of Sergents in the cupboard for future experimenting, but they won't sell you a round tuit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 .....they won't sell you a round tuit. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/35370-round-tuit/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Has Paul actually got a rake of coaches? I've only ever seen the TPO and that didn't have connectors on it last time I saw it. My rake of 4 Mark 1s had an incident free outing on Portchullin at Scaleforum a couple of years ago. Perhaps Mark will come and tell us what the curve radius is? http://www.rmweb.co....post__p__251382 Morgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 If Kempenfelt has built a rake of coaches - ever - I'll strip and put a pink feather boa on, whilst dancing to the YMCA...yep, pretty confident on this! Either that or the neighbours are in for another shock... Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If Kempenfelt has built a rake of coaches - ever - I'll strip and put a pink feather boa on, whilst dancing to the YMCA... I think I'm going to be sick..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Has Paul actually got a rake of coaches? I've only ever seen the TPO and that didn't have commectors on it last time I saw it. My rake of 4 Mark 1s had an incident free outing on Portchullin at Scaleforum a couple of years ago. Perhaps Mark will come an tell us what the curve radius is? http://www.rmweb.co....post__p__251382 Morgan My minimum radius is 4 feet, which is the curve onto the outer loop from the loop turnouts. It is relatively short and otherwise the radius is 8 feet. Now of course, that is what templot drew and I intended, exactly what I built is another matter (I don't think it will be much sharper than 4' though - 3'9" at worst). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Well if Paul ever needed the encouragement to finish something then there it is... Just remind me to neck the Southern Comfort first eh . He had fitted the couplings and Bill Bedford bogies to a few coaches Morgan and I think a pair had the connectors in too allowing us to at least see they went through the curve fine. I really must lay myself a board with a long 3'6 S curve on it to do some testing at home really... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I don't know why you all agonise so much, KDs are simple, work well, look similar to the real thing and allow a practically scale gap between coaches with gangways in contact, just do it. Refer http://youtu.be/-tfQ1HXfd0c and http://youtu.be/KhR-edqYUKw regards Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I don't know why you all agonise so much, KDs are simple, work well, look similar to the real thing and allow a practically scale gap between coaches with gangways in contact, I suppose - for me anyway - having had a disaster with one type of coupling I don't want to make a costly mistake by investing in something that is not going to do what it says it does. All my coaches - now approaching 30 in number - are kit built, if I were simply (?) converting Bachmann then having read Morgans' piece on this type of conversion I don't suppose I would agonise. Once bitten and all that... Thanks for the video evidence. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I don't know why you all agonise so much, KDs are simple, work well, look similar to the real thing and allow a practically scale gap between coaches with gangways in contact, just do it. regards Keith Keith, not if you model carriages that have screw couplings. Jol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 He had fitted the couplings and Bill Bedford bogies to a few coaches Morgan and I think a pair had the connectors in too allowing us to at least see they went through the curve fine. GULP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Well now, this topic seemed to be mostly about Mk1s. If your carriages had screw couplings then you need to put up with it or decide on a compromise that suits you. My personal dislikes are loose coupled coaches (which rules out AJs) and trying to couple screw couplings under gangways. So my personal compromise is to use KDs on those as well, it may not look like the real thing but it does look pretty much like a coupler that could be used on a railway not some weird bent wire gadget. To each his own Oh, check coach no 5 in my long train above, did you notice the KD? Regards Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 GULP! <snigger> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Credit where it is due. My adoption of Kaydees on Mk1s was based on stuff previously published by Keith. On screw coupling stock what I'm working on is AJs with a different setting distance from the headstock. This means that buffer faces and corridor connectors touch and the train behaves as it should and not like a loose coupled freight. Of course this requires sprung buffers and compliant corridor connectors of the same type/build standard on all your stock. I'm not fitting droppers to these AJs either as the need to couple/uncouple in public view is non existent for the layouts I'm involved with. Morgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Torper Posted February 13, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2012 I get confused by all the different varieties of Kaydees. Which ones do you use on your coaches, Keith? DT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If Kempenfelt has built a rake of coaches - ever - I'll strip and put a pink feather boa on, whilst dancing to the YMCA...yep, pretty confident on this! Either that or the neighbours are in for another shock... Mike There you go Mike, a little inspiration............... Young man, there's no need to feel down I said young man, pick yourself off the ground I said young man, 'cause your in a new town There's no need to be unhappy................... Oh and don't forget the hand actions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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