Talltim Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Sorry for the duff gen Duff gen is something different again! (are there actually more 60s active than 47s?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I think there is about 36 active 47s so no there isnt more 60s than 47s-they should be though! Why does DBS keep trying to switch between 59 and 60 haulage on the LBT-FFPS diagram when 60s are just as suited if not better for this job? Keep the 59/2s where they belong - on South West aggregate trains! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 60096 failed on Tuesday morning on 6A11 Robeston - Theale. It was dragged most of the way by a 66, and returned today (6B33) nearly a day late. Not sure what the state of the tug is, or what will be happening with 6B33 tomorrow, well today now. A happier tug moment on Tuesday (2nd Nov) saw 60063 with 6B13 Robeston - Westerleigh, rolling along the single line leading to the terminal An alternative angle, with the train coming over the foot crossing is here http://joalder.fotopic.net/p67964008.html The developments with 60007 sound very interesting, here's hoping it's a success and leads to a squadron overhaul (albeit only part of the fleet) as planned cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 If just 25 were overhauled then it would be great as the survival of the Tug would be guaranteed for the next decade B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted November 4, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2010 Is it the 'end of the tugs' after all? That's exactly what I was thinking reading this lot - perhaps the thread should be renamed "Tugs Reborn" as it looks as if there's going to be a few around for a while more. Oddly, this tug chasing reminds me a lot of Black 5 chasing in 1967! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 4, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2010 59203 allox Warrington - LBT empties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 GM thrash may be acceptable for empties but a 59 will struggle leaving LBT with 2000+ of coal on loaded workings-will need double heading with a 60! This isnt the case with the trusted 60s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Next week's LBT traffic should see enough work for the 2 60s and the 59... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 This isnt the case with the trusted 60s It's hardly unknown for 60s to fail to make it over Bootle Jct either though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 The 60s must fail less than the 59s as the 60s have been used on this working for several years?. Ive seen on fotopic sites after ceasing to use HAAs old National Power hoppers were used on the working,when did it change over to HTAs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 5, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2010 As Stu says - and he knows - 60s fail as well. Good news that the LBT needs 3 locos for the diagram, with the freightliner stuff too the guys at Strand Road will be working their socks off The JMAs (ex NP hoppers) arrived on 24 January 2001, 60004 worked the first rake around Fiddlers, I was working in Warrington and was given permission to leave work to get it ! 60095 worked later the same day to the LBT as 6P50, 15:05, FFPS - LBT, first visit to the LBT. 60033 worked the first scheduled service on 11/06/2001 (the others were trials), I was lucky enough to catch this too - heading to work I noticed a signal at clear at Arpley Junction and parked up, and 60033 came round the corner ! - again work gave me permission to go in late so I waited for it to run round and got more shots as it worked 7F89, LBT - FFPS. I first photographed HTAs on the circuit on 17/06/2002 when 66225 took 6F89, 05:16, LBT - FFPS, this was one of the first workings but not the first, back in those days I had a permit to photograph in Liverpool docks and used to visit frequently so I got very friendly with the shunters who helped with tip offs The HAAs (and variations) fell out of favour around 2008 but Stu will probably know better, it passed me by as my permit was withdrawn many years ago due to American pressure after 9/11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Heads up for those in this neck of the woods - 60010 is currently at Appleford. It should work back to Whatley this afternoon via Swindon, Chippenham and Westbury. Normally 15.00 - 15.30 at Chippenham cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 As Stu says - and he knows - 60s fail as well. Good news that the LBT needs 3 locos for the diagram, with the freightliner stuff too the guys at Strand Road will be working their socks off The JMAs (ex NP hoppers) arrived on 24 January 2001, 60004 worked the first rake around Fiddlers, I was working in Warrington and was given permission to leave work to get it ! 60095 worked later the same day to the LBT as 6P50, 15:05, FFPS - LBT, first visit to the LBT. 60033 worked the first scheduled service on 11/06/2001 (the others were trials), I was lucky enough to catch this too - heading to work I noticed a signal at clear at Arpley Junction and parked up, and 60033 came round the corner ! - again work gave me permission to go in late so I waited for it to run round and got more shots as it worked 7F89, LBT - FFPS. I first photographed HTAs on the circuit on 17/06/2002 when 66225 took 6F89, 05:16, LBT - FFPS, this was one of the first workings but not the first, back in those days I had a permit to photograph in Liverpool docks and used to visit frequently so I got very friendly with the shunters who helped with tip offs The HAAs (and variations) fell out of favour around 2008 but Stu will probably know better, it passed me by as my permit was withdrawn many years ago due to American pressure after 9/11 A very informative response B) What type of permit did you have,could you go around Arpley yard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 5, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2010 A very informative response B) What type of permit did you have,could you go around Arpley yard? It was a permit to photograph in Liverpool docks (as I said ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Looks like 7 is at Toytown getting ready for a re-diddle....... Cr*ppy TATA livery for the orange & black beastie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roman Posted November 5, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2010 60019 is shown allox 6M30 1645 Doncaster-Warrington Arpley this evening. Thanks to the man in the chair. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 5, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2010 Looks like 7 is at Toytown getting ready for a re-diddle....... Cr*ppy TATA livery for the orange & black beastie? How about DBS red? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpleymodeller Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 It was a permit to photograph in Liverpool docks (as I said ) Sorry, didnt read that bit, just the start and last bit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 How about DBS red? Cheers, Mick Sounds nice Mick, and here's hoping it's more than just the one that ends up getting done. Nothing in this game is certain until it's happened Here's tug 10 in the rain today on 6C48 Appleford - Whatley, passing Langley Burrell near Chippenham. Whilst the 59s are nice (a real local landmark) a tug is top in my book! cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 60096 dragged by 66166 'up' the South Wales Main Line twixt Cardiff & Newport, 1040hrs Saturday 6th. November, 2010. . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 60019 and 60059 at Arpley this morning. 60013 passes by with 6F74 Liverpool Bulk Terminal - Fidlers Ferry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 60019 and 60059 at Arpley this morning. 60013 passes by with 6F74 Liverpool Bulk Terminal - Fidlers Ferry. Nice one! Three tugs in one shot - and it's not at Toton All different liveries too. Here's hoping the 60 becomes mundane again - in a good way. Today 60074 worked a local engineers train, from Westbury to the worksite on the single line to Thingley, then to Swindon for a run round and then back to Westbury. Due to early running I missed the outward shot by seconds, but here it is returning near Lacock, a couple of hundred metres north of the worksite. The portable floodlights parked against the lineside fence are from this work, and a pair of road rail excavators were parked up out of shot too. It'd be an interesting scene to model, along with the discarded food and wrappers present. cheers jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 How about DBS red? Cheers, Mick That would be better I think Mick - the TATA silver looks a bit naff...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 60054 Charles Babbage just seen in Buxton light engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Here we are again. Same loco, same strectch of line, just a mile or so further north 60074 is seen at Thingley Junction with 7C54 Oxford Banbury Road - Whatley quarry empty stone 9/11/10. It was cold and dull, but the loco sounded ace and was powering well. For the wagon fans, this is the same set 60010 used last Friday on the Appleford stone, formed of VTG green ex Railtrack JNA boxes (34xx), Mendip Rail JNAs (39xx) and Yeoman O&K JYAs (32xx/33xx) I've noticed 60074 has lost Shaun from the front handrail since my photo of it at the end of September - he hung on for a few weeks though! cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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