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28xx or 38xx?


Tim Hale

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Not having a background or knowledge of other regions can be problematic, in the case the query concerns the use of either the 28xx or 38xx in the West Country or on the Wiltshire, Somerset and Weymouth railway during the 50's.

 

Were either in use on these lines, if so, were they equally used?

 

Sorry if this not 'proper' research but I am grateful to those who respond.

 

Thanks

 

Tim

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From Derek Phillips' book on the Westbury to Weymouth line:

Westbury allocation 1947: 2803, 2818, 3842, 3849, 3850, 3863. 1950: none. 1959: 2811, 3819.

He mentions them taking over the heavy goods trains from the Aberdare class.

He has a photo of 3819 at Yeovil PM with a Weymouth freight in 1961.

Pete

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Being pedantic the two types are 2800 (Churchward's original) and 2884 (Collett's updating)

 

Hornby haven't helped by calling all the later type 3800s!

 

Keith

 

That's interesting, the Collett 0-6-0's often referred to as the 'Collett Goods' are also known as the 2251 class, numbers started at 2200 :scratchhead: .

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That would be because the first batch were 2251-2270. 2200-2250 weren't built until about 10 years later.

http://www.greatwest...in_060_2251.htm

 

Adrian

The last of the County tanks (2221-2250) weren't withdrawn until 1935, after the first batch of Collett Goods (1930) had been built.

 

Keith

 

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Unfortunately even the GWR wasn't consistent, sometimes both the 2800 & 2884 series of 2-8-0s are lumped together as one class!

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Unfortunately even the GWR wasn't consistent, sometimes both the 2800 & 2884 series of 2-8-0s are lumped together as one class!

 

Mechanically and operationally there was no difference and the GWR used them interchangeably. The changes were essentially cosmetic. There were more differences between the different 29xx series Saints than there were between the 2-8-0s.

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The last of the County tanks (2221-2250) weren't withdrawn until 1935, after the first batch of Collett Goods (1930) had been built.

 

Keith

 

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Unfortunately even the GWR wasn't consistent, sometimes both the 2800 & 2884 series of 2-8-0s are lumped together as one class!

Operationally they were exactly the same so no reason not to lump them together. And the same applied with the 'Halls' (although certain locos were individually distinguished as different) in that in some WR publications they are lumped together - in one case as the 79XX Class :O

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