Horsetan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 UPDATE: My pair arrived today, sandwiched between two massive floorboards. Thanks Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lyonesse Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I just got mine today. The plan is to build it in P4 with all the trimmings --- probably Princess Arthur of Connaught in BR green. But first I have to finish the Saint, Hall and N15 that are just about to enter the paint shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I just got mine today. The plan is to build it in P4 with all the trimmings ... Enjoy. I think we may be able to use the Stanier 18mm smokebox door casting from 247, but I still don't know where we can get a chimney and dome from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbax Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Any updates on this? I have built a comet tender with the Lanakshire models chassis for mine which will be 6205 Princess Victoria. Got the nameplates today, and have the boiler and smokebox rolled. Just finishing off a Gibson 3F with a CSB (first try at this) before starting in earnest on this one which may also incorporate a CSB ( need to explore the solution for having abogie and trailing truck). Question What/how did you push the rivits out? Philbax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi Phil! Any updates on this? I have built a comet tender with the Lanakshire models chassis for mine which will be 6205 Princess Victoria. Got the nameplates today, and have the boiler and smokebox rolled. Looks like you're slightly ahead of me on the boiler front! I've got the tender mostly built and am also fitting a Lanarkshire tender chassis to it. I guess I ought to sort some pics out soon..... Question What/how did you push the rivits out? Philbax I used a GW Models rivet press, which made that task very easy indeed. Now, I wouldn't advise doing such a task so late at night, but I found I could concentrate better when doing the work just before calling it a night. Yes, I'd had a beer too.... Cheers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted February 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2013 Yes, I'd had a beer too.... Keep clear of the black forest gateaux though .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Any updates on this? I have built a comet tender with the Lanakshire models chassis for mine which will be 6205 Princess Victoria. Got the nameplates today, and have the boiler and smokebox rolled. I only got hold of a Comet tender plus some other parts at the Watford show, so am very behind. I'm not using the Lanarkshire chassis, as I want to make use of the Comet one that was supplied in the tender kit. Seems a pity to waste it, and it does have EM spacers that are usable. Also had a spare set of Ultrascale bogie, trailing truck and tender wheels in the drawer, plus the indented driving axles and some crankpins, so the only things needed are 6 driving wheels. Incidentally, has anyone noticed how quickly the frets seem to tarnish if left open to the air? I've hardly touched the first (46201) of my pair, yet it has come out in all sorts of green spots, and that's even after putting the fret back inside the tissue paper that it came wrapped in. I wasn't aware my home was so corrosive......! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Incidentally, has anyone noticed how quickly the frets seem to tarnish if left open to the air? I've hardly touched the first (46201) of my pair, yet it has come out in all sorts of green spots, and that's even after putting the fret back inside the tissue paper that it came wrapped in. I wasn't aware my home was so corrosive......! Mine's not done that at all... Still got a few things left to snip off the fret once I get round to it, but there's not a blemish on it. Sure it's not down to the after-effects of those curries you cook? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 That's a fair point about the curries, Tim. I've had to replace at least three pairs of underpants recently after the elastic failed..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2013 I only got hold of a Comet tender plus some other parts at the Watford show, so am very behind. I'm not using the Lanarkshire chassis, as I want to make use of the Comet one that was supplied in the tender kit. Seems a pity to waste it, and it does have EM spacers that are usable. Also had a spare set of Ultrascale bogie, trailing truck and tender wheels in the drawer, plus the indented driving axles and some crankpins, so the only things needed are 6 driving wheels. Incidentally, has anyone noticed how quickly the frets seem to tarnish if left open to the air? I've hardly touched the first (46201) of my pair, yet it has come out in all sorts of green spots, and that's even after putting the fret back inside the tissue paper that it came wrapped in. I wasn't aware my home was so corrosive......! I don't know where you are keeping them but we haven't seen any tarnishing on n/s etches, some of ours have been in the workshop for the last 12 years or so. Brass is a different story though, sometimes the etches tarnish very quickly - if you can't feel any roughness on the surface they are perfectly OK to use. If they were that bad we'd have sent them back to Photoetch. Michael Edge Judith Edge kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I don't know where you are keeping them but we haven't seen any tarnishing on n/s etches, some of ours have been in the workshop for the last 12 years or so. Mine are kept sandwiched between the two boards, in the downstairs front room. It must be something in the atmosphere here. I'm mystified. Anyway, won't take long to clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted February 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2013 the tranising could be down to pine oil out of the wood which is being used to keep the kits stright. As pine oil is in flux under one of its many names and is party the resone why flux stains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 its a way of telling you to get it done and painted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 27, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2013 It's not the hardboard, all our stock is kept like this. The etches are delivered packed between sheets of hardboard (and wrapped in tissue paper of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted February 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2013 Tissue will also contains pine oil But as you say all your parts are kept the same so dose seem to be something else that's the problem. Michael how are the new etches,s princess royal coming on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Tissue will also contains pine oil But as you say all your parts are kept the same so dose seem to be something else that's the problem. Michael how are the new etches,s princess royal coming on The hardboard is similar to the stuff we used to use underneath carpet and carpet underlay. One side looks similar to lino. I thought the tissue paper was pretty much the same grade that most etched kit people use - i.e. acid-free, so it can't have been that. I reckon it's got to be something in the atmosphere here. Maybe a dehumidifier might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2013 Tissue will also contains pine oil But as you say all your parts are kept the same so dose seem to be something else that's the problem. Michael how are the new etches,s princess royal coming on Revised Princess etch probably May/June 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The only references I can find on t'web for pine oil in tissue relate to wrapping products for citrus fruit and toilet tissue. As HT already pointed out, most if not all etched kit suppliers use acid free wrapping tissue which is not difficult to obtain. I think farren's reference to pine oil may be something of a red cannon (or is it a loose herring?). Jol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Revised Princess etch probably May/June What changes will there be, compared to the frets we bought, Mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbax Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Tim What guage wire did you use for the window surround please thx Philbax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 What are the shortcomings of the Hornby Princess? I was going to get one. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 What are the shortcomings of the Hornby Princess? I was going to get one. Dave ooh, where do I start! We'll start with the boiler... Lacking girth and having a badly shaped firebox. Also, to the best of my knowledge, I've never known a tapered boiler start at the front of the smokebox before... The cab is a complete dog's breakfast (in all dimensions) and various items along the running plate are just plain wrong. As the Irishman would say (when asked for directions) "I wouldn't start from here!". It hails from the mid 1980s when Hornby revamped the then-ancient Tri-ang model. The only modification it has had since then has been to move the leading splasher forwards to suit the newer chassis from 2002/3. Even then, it still kept a split rear bissel truck, which looks ghastly. The tender body is the original 1977 Duchess one, which has seriously misplaced rivet lines (obvious to the eyes) and generally very clunky in appearance. As an aside, the flush-sided Duchess one (from 2002/3) is a modified version of this as all the hallmarks are there. Put simply, I sure as anything wouldn't buy one Tim What guage wire did you use for the window surround please thx Philbax Just realised I'd not replied to this one, sorry Phil! 0.35mm phosphor-bronze wire was used for this. Worked a treat . Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Phil's almost finished building his. Unfortunately he's now got an enforced wait of, ooh, at least five months..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted May 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2013 Would that be the wheels by chance. Ordered mine yesterday and they don't come with a 5 month wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 ooh, where do I start! We'll start with the boiler... Lacking girth and having a badly shaped firebox. Also, to the best of my knowledge, I've never known a tapered boiler start at the front of the smokebox before... The cab is a complete dog's breakfast (in all dimensions) and various items along the running plate are just plain wrong. As the Irishman would say (when asked for directions) "I wouldn't start from here!". It hails from the mid 1980s when Hornby revamped the then-ancient Tri-ang model. The only modification it has had since then has been to move the leading splasher forwards to suit the newer chassis from 2002/3. Even then, it still kept a split rear bissel truck, which looks ghastly. The tender body is the original 1977 Duchess one, which has seriously misplaced rivet lines (obvious to the eyes) and generally very clunky in appearance. As an aside, the flush-sided Duchess one (from 2002/3) is a modified version of this as all the hallmarks are there. Put simply, I sure as anything wouldn't buy one Just realised I'd not replied to this one, sorry Phil! 0.35mm phosphor-bronze wire was used for this. Worked a treat . Cheers, I realise that the question of quality in the Hornby Princess is one I cannot answer, but the Hornby version scubs up ok with a bit of image editing... so while many dimensions are no doubt inaccurate, it can look pretty good... Equally I comprehend scratch-building and its pleasures, and that it can be a very great thing to get things right.. Apologies if you have seen this before, Cheers, Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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