RMweb Premium 31A Posted November 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2013 Another message from Hattons a couple of days ago: Heljan 2321 Class 23 Baby Deltic D5901 green with frost grilles £104.00Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us December 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Another message from Hattons a couple of days ago: Heljan 2321 Class 23 Baby Deltic D5901 green with frost grilles £104.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us December 2013 ...............................yes, trouble at Vulcan Foundry I'm afraid!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2013 ...............................yes, trouble at Vulcan Foundry I'm afraid!! The factory's gone missing - would that explain it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted November 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2013 Another message from Hattons a couple of days ago: Heljan 2321 Class 23 Baby Deltic D5901 green with frost grilles £104.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us December 2013 Another e-mail from Liverpool today - Jan 2014 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawfin Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Another e-mail from Liverpool today - Jan 2014 now. This is getting annoying now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlink Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Just back from Warley where I was able to see the forthcoming baby Deltics in the flesh, I also spoke to someone on the Heljan stand who informed me that these locos would be with us in January but I forgot to ask him which January!!! Ian h Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2013 Just back from Warley where I was able to see the forthcoming baby Deltics in the flesh, I also spoke to someone on the Heljan stand who informed me that these locos would be with us in January but I forgot to ask him which January!!!Ian h I had a good look at them...having seen all of them in the flesh way back when in that condition.Liked what I saw.,what's your considered opinion,Ian ( one to another!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlink Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Very impressed I wish I could have brought them home with me! It's this dammed waiting that gets me, it was the same with the Bachmann A2 (and the new class 40) The Baby Deltics will certainly fit in well on Haymarket Cross. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Im glad they're looking good, I've been looking forward to these for some time, did anyone manage to get any photos of them? I too am a bit frustrated with the delay I had budgeted for a November release to avoid my house purchase clashing so I have had to reduce my pre-order to two. It doesn't help that the covhops and Class 26/0 are due in Janurary as well. Did Heljan have any decorated samples of the 26/0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Here you go Baby Deltic 001 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr Baby Deltic 002 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr Looks like the nose issue has been addressed, but don't quote me on that! cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks for the photos Shane, they are looking rather good. If they were released this month I would off had 4, will have to settle for 2 until the next run ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlink Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Most refreshing to see no yellow! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Most refreshing to see no yellow! Ian and hopefully no lights? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlink Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 and hopefully no lights? Stewart Are we talking head and tail lights here? if so you can always turn them off. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Are we talking head and tail lights here? if so you can always turn them off. Ian No you can't! Most of mine I've actually removed. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlink Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 No you can't! Most of mine I've actually removed. Stewart Whilst I don't possess one of these locos as they have not been released yet I do have two or three other Heljan diesels (15, 26 & 27) all of which I can turn the lamps on and off as well as adjust the brightness should I need, which models can you not turn the lights on and off? Oh' forgot to ask, are you using them on Analogue or DCC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Whilst I don't possess one of these locos as they have not been released yet I do have two or three other Heljan diesels (15, 26 & 27) all of which I can turn the lamps on and off as well as adjust the brightness should I need, which models can you not turn the lights on and off? Oh' forgot to ask, are you using them on Analogue or DCC? DC, I have no need for DCC. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2013 I am with Stewart regarding lights on early diesels. They were only supposed to be on at night or in extreme bad weather conditions. The bulbs for them were 20 watt maximum, so even on in daylight it was hard to see if they were illuminated or not. Look at colour photos of diesels in the 60s and 70s and see how many of the little lights behind the headcode disc are on and how often you can tell if the lights behind the roller blinds of a 4 figure headcode or dmu destination panel are working? If they do show up they are a yellowy colour not bright white. Up until the 70s it was not common for the red tail light to be on but a oil tail lamp carried when running light engine. When the use of the red light started only one not both would be switched on, again only when light engine not when hauling a train. If you look at WR locos up to about 1970ish they had one red light and one white light each end. These would be switched on when shunting within station limits as a red light and a white light displayed both ends of a loco was the headcode for shunting. Your shunting locos should display this headcode as well, for all regions. Like Stewart I remove the lights form my 60's diesels, as the normally would be off in daylight and if not hardly visible. I find running my layout in the dark/night-time even with the layout lights on causes to many accidents as I cannot see to move around the garage without bumping into something. And if the weather is foggy or blowing a blizzard I tend to not venture out to the garage as it would be too cold. For those who model post 1980s then imitating 93 Searchlight Regiment, Royal Artillery is OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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