Michael Delamar Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 before the coal loader was built they used to stock pile the coal behind my nan's house which was on the dock estate and has been demolished and incorporated into the estate. when I was a kid in the late 80s we would play in the back alleys there and coal dust would blow over all the kids and we would come back filthy. it would sting when it got in your eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 4, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2012 I'm going to be adding quite a few photos to this thread (and others, and creating yet more) over the next few weeks, so bear with me on a couple of possible problems 1 - They won't necessarily be chronological 2 - I may end up reposting the same images again ! Please bear in mind these are scanned by Max Spielmann and are not always of the best quality (and the originals are not always of the best quality !) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 4, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2012 05 May 2001 Seaforth Container Terminal crane Disused grain loading equipment - see Tom's photo earlier in the thread Remnants of the Liverpool Overhead Railway - still intact the best part of 50 years after closure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 7, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2012 09 May 2001 57005 heads 4K69, 18:50 Seaforth - Crewe Basford Hall Freightliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 9, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2012 Friday 18 May 2001 Seaforth 37521 on 6P55, 17:00 Seaforth - Walton Old Junction Cawoods Strand Road Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 12, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2012 18 May 2001 57009 crosses Regent Road on 4F58, MSX, 12:10 Crewe Basford Hall - Seaforth Freightliner And makes it's way through the docks to Seaforth Runs round After leaving it's train at Seaforth it heads off light engine to Edge Hill - so the crew could get some food ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 In 2002 I was working on the Port Of Liverpool CHP plant and used to watch these trains going past. Also the guitarist in the band I was with at the time worked on one of them, cant remember who for now but his depot was in Crewe. I'm hoping I might spot his face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2012 18 May 2001 continued Details of 60093 are here 60093 runs round 6F78, Fiddlers Ferry - Liverpool Bulk Terminal Empties 60093 brings 7F84, Liverpool Bulk Terminal - Fiddlers Ferry P.S loaded through the loader An attempt at an artistic shot - I did eventually get a 60 with still water here Passing some plant which was awaiting collection by one of the lorries, for moving elsewhere into the estate Balanced on a gate post ! And off we go, to Fiddlers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 16, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2012 Yet more from 18 May 2001 - a busy day ! 60014 arrives on 6F79, 15:05 Fiddlers Ferry Power Station - Liverpool Bulk Terminal empties And runs round Propels the train to the loader And eventually 60014 leads 7F85, Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry loaded MGR through the coal loader - it's possible to see the coal dropping into the wagons And onwards along the departure line (No still water on this one either) The train arrives at the cabin and awaits it's train orders Before departing for the power station Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thank you very much, Dave, for taking the time to put all these photo up. I think the 60 Class was the only class that I never saw their commissioning or decommissioning. I mean I paid visits to the UK throughout the time but never saw one, ever. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Remnants of the Liverpool Overhead Railway - still intact the best part of 50 years after closure. can you remind me again where this bit is/was? because if its on the stretch of Regent road I think it is, east side of what was north mersey goods yard then I dont think it carried the overhead as that was on the west side of the yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 18, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2012 can you remind me again where this bit is/was? because if its on the stretch of Regent road I think it is, east side of what was north mersey goods yard then I dont think it carried the overhead as that was on the west side of the yard. It's at the North end of the yard, at Shore Road, where the line swings back in again towards Seaforth - however I think you may be right, it probably isn't the overhead, but it would have been pretty close to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 it could have been part of the inclined viaduct that led into North mersey yard. edit that it cant be the L&Y its too far up, looking on google earth and Stuart Daniel's shot here I can see where it is now. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuarts-phots/5836812350/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 18, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2012 Meanwhile on the 18 May 2001 57009 returns from the chippy 57009 crosses Regent Road as 0K69, returning from stabling at Edge Hill 57009 heads 4K69, (SX) 18.50 Seaforth - Crewe Basford Hall Nameplate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 18, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2012 Another day, another dollar 57/0 I hope these pictures convey how absolutely superb it was to be able to wander around these trains and photograph them, close up, I was destroyed when the permits were removed, especially as I missed out by a few weeks on getting another 12 month one, however, still plenty to come. The only time any of the drivers complained was one Scottish driver who had a go at me, the security and shunters soon put him right though, a few were ambivalent but most were very friendly, cab rides around the system were frequently offered and occasionally taken up - I wanted to photograph the trains so a catch-22 situation. A big thank-you to all the guys who made this a very special time, most of their names have come and gone from my memory sadly. 18th May 2001 (I've skipped most of the 60014 pictures as that's already been done, it may return ) 60014 heads 7F89, 05:14 Liverpool Bulk Terminal - Fiddlers Ferry loaded MGR, 3 hours late Still water at last ! 57011 heads 4F58, (SO), 09.22 Garston FLT - Seaforth freightliner Arriving at Seaforth Running round 57011 propels the train into Seaforth And finally departs for Crewe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 30, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2012 Saturday 19 May 2001 Liverpool Docks 60093 arrives on 6F90, (SO) 04.10 Walton Old Junction - Liverpool Bulk empties, 4 hours late 60093 heads 7F80, (SO) 07.50 Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry Power Station loaded MGR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 seen these? Hornby Dock by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr Hornby Dock by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 1, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2012 Saturday 19 May More late running, can't remember why, possibly the reclaim tower had jammed. 60044 arrives on 6F85, SO, 05.15 Walton Old Jct - Liverpool Bulk empties, 4 hours late And runs around the train And finally propelling under the reclaim tower, ready for loading Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 1, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2012 19 May 2001 60044 heads 7F81, SO, 10:11 Liverpool Bulk - Fiddlers Ferry Power Station, 3 hours late Note the coal dropping into the wagons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Everyone a "gem", Dave................ Thanks, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 All i can say is "wow" those pictures were great beast66606!!! brought back memories of going over to the Port of Liverpool with my dad on sunday morning,to watch the 37"s and 56"s...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Cheers for posting these, Beast. The "Gypsum Queen" being a sort of 'memorial locomotive' was interesting - something I didn't know. As you said at the start, changes after 9/11 & the introduction of, inter alia, the ISPS Code,have meant that it's now so difficult to record what's going on. FWIW, it's the same across much of the world's ports now Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 20, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2012 Some great sets of photos. What's an ISPS permit? A few years ago when the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board was taken private I had to sell a few shares that my grandfather (who lived in Birkenhead) had bought back in the 1890's. They had a final Shareholders meeting to sort the formalities out and I noticed that the meetinhg was going to take place inside the docks. I decided to attend aand had a wonderful time during a boring meeting wtching the rail traffic out of the window from the 1st floor meeting room. The traffic was much more interesting than the meeting but it was a great opportunity to legally get inside the docks complex. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 25, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2012 Some great sets of photos. What's an ISPS permit? Thanks, I have a lot more to come but giving people a break at the moment, overload ! The International Ship and Port Facility Security Code (ISPS Code) is a comprehensive set of measures to enhance the security of ships and port facilities http://www.imo.org/o...s/ispscode.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Cheers for posting these, Beast. The "Gypsum Queen" being a sort of 'memorial locomotive' was interesting - something I didn't know. As you said at the start, changes after 9/11 & the introduction of, inter alia, the ISPS Code,have meant that it's now so difficult to record what's going on. FWIW, it's the same across much of the world's ports now Cheers Mark Rather ironically, these days I tend to find that the most laid back ports when it comes to photography are of the military variety (Army or Navy run, USA excepted), with commercial port security/paranoia rivalling what you could find behind the iron curtain pre 1989. The only difference being the substitution of rifles with hi-vis vests and that it's no longer possible to bribe the (NKVD-esque) modern security guards with Grants whisky or Levi jeans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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