rob D2 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hi, Just wondering if this is the same/ similar to alot of BR cranes I've seen in photos of yards circa 79-82. If so I may have a use for one ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted July 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2012 http://www.corgi.co.uk/shop/trackside/dg226000-coles-argus-6-ton-crane-yellow/ says they were first built in 1954, so one in the late seventies / early eighties would look a little tired, and I'm not sure they would be used for general purpose goods by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hi, Just wondering if this is the same/ similar to alot of BR cranes I've seen in photos of yards circa 79-82. If so I may have a use for one ! Yes B R had a lot of them in both crimson then yellow livery. The later ones had single wheels, more chunky. Still one in use at Longsight depot fairly recently. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I bought one of the early releases and repainted it, does anyone know of a source of BR (crimson) transfers? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I bought one of the early releases and repainted it, does anyone know of a source of BR (crimson) transfers? Stewart Transfers for the crimson livery are done by Fox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) The later ones had single wheels, more chunky. Merf. A bit like a unicycle ? Edited July 24, 2012 by JZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Transfers for the crimson livery are done by Fox. I guess thats just the BR ones, what about the Coles lettering too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 So they started building them in 54 , question is were they still building them in 70s - were you about as such ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 They were certainly still about into the 1970s, and even into the early 1980s, though many had been replaced by a larger type. There is a site dedicated to Coles Cranes:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tonyonthemoon/Coles.html Here's one fairly local to me, seemingly abandoned:- http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p147313098/h423bd12#h423bd12 I have some photos I took of the same machine; when I find them, I'll post them here, if anyone's interested. One thing that the Corgi model lacks is the square board with the calibrated quadrant that was latterly fitted to the side of the jib- this showed the operator the safe working load (SWL) of the crane for given angles of the jib. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I have some photos I took of the same machine; when I find them, I'll post them here, if anyone's interested. One thing that the Corgi model lacks is the square board with the calibrated quadrant that was latterly fitted to the side of the jib- this showed the operator the safe working load (SWL) of the crane for given angles of the jib. Yes please. As for the quadrant, here's a pic. of one on a rail mounted Coles crane: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/17621-coles-crane-at-the-red-rose-steam-society/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Hi, Just wondering if this is the same/ similar to alot of BR cranes I've seen in photos of yards circa 79-82. If so I may have a use for one ! And the NCB. As often seen pottering about the Ashington Area. From Mr Fords Flickr collection along with a few other NCB cranes, http://flic.kr/p/9wTFYR I've got some pix of the Coles job virtually ex. works but can I find them?.... EDIT: Found them. Can't post as not my Copyright but dated as 1963 and the crane looks brand spanking new. Porcy Edited July 25, 2012 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yes please. As for the quadrant, here's a pic. of one on a rail mounted Coles crane: http://www.rmweb.co....-steam-society/ I've found them, but I'll have to wait for Lynne's next visit home to post them; I don't want to be the person who put RM Web offline.... That one at Kearnsey's a strange one- presumably moved there from elsewhere, as Kearnsey yard hasn't been rail served for donkey's years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Is this one on Caversham Lock island? I think there's another at the boatyard quarter of a mile or so downstream. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Caversham,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=51.460669,-0.965501&spn=0.000358,0.000955&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=29.854268,62.578125&oq=Cavers&t=h&hnear=Caversham,+Reading,+United+Kingdom&z=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Is this one on Caversham Lock island? I think there's another at the boatyard quarter of a mile or so downstream. https://maps.google....ed Kingdom&z=20 That looks more like a Priestman or similar tracked crane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I have some photos I took of the same machine; when I find them, I'll post them here, if anyone's interested. One thing that the Corgi model lacks is the square board with the calibrated quadrant that was latterly fitted to the side of the jib- this showed the operator the safe working load (SWL) of the crane for given angles of the jib. i only remember them with the board as like this http://www.cheltenha...exd.asp?id=7394 and a bell you could just hear if you went to lift a load that was to heavy Edited July 25, 2012 by John C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted July 25, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2012 i only remember them with the board as like this http://www.cheltenha...exd.asp?id=7394 and a bell you could just hear if you went to lift a load that was to heavy We are at cross purposes here. The load radius indicator is the weighted thing on the jib that shows the radius to the operator, and the safe working load at that radius. The Safe Load Indicator is a box that is mounted on the connection between the derrick rope and the crane's frame. They were manufactured by a company called Wylie and had a strong spring and a cam inside. The cam had to be shaped to match that particular crane so that it switched an amber light on in the cab as the safe working load was approached and lit a red light and rang a bell when the safe working load was exceeded. What makes you think that I used to set the blighters up? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2022 I am keen to have one of these cranes for my dockside layout. It seems that the corgi model is largely unavailable, and I'm not too keen on the diecast level of detail. What other options are there? I am aware of the crane from the airfix recovery set, but that is a much larger beast. Is anybody aware of any alternatives? Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold C126 Posted March 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2022 5 hours ago, ikcdab said: I am keen to have one of these cranes for my dockside layout. It seems that the corgi model is largely unavailable, and I'm not too keen on the diecast level of detail. What other options are there? I am aware of the crane from the airfix recovery set, but that is a much larger beast. Is anybody aware of any alternatives? Ian Just wanted to share your plight. I, too, am ten years too late. Not being on E-Bay (are they common there?), I have been scouring charity shops, and asking die-cast model dealers, leaving my details. I was quoted by a dealer in the north-east £50 mint and boxed, and £20-25 unboxed and used... I think they were £25 new. Good luck, and if you find a second, please let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, C126 said: Just wanted to share your plight. I, too, am ten years too late. Not being on E-Bay (are they common there?), I have been scouring charity shops, and asking die-cast model dealers, leaving my details. I was quoted by a dealer in the north-east £50 mint and boxed, and £20-25 unboxed and used... I think they were £25 new. Good luck, and if you find a second, please let me know. I keep looking. However my point was, what are the alternatives to the corgi model? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 I'm not sure there are any , Ive still got my yellow one 10 years on - occasionally comes out 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold C126 Posted March 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12, 2022 19 hours ago, ikcdab said: I keep looking. However my point was, what are the alternatives to the corgi model? Sorry not to answer directly, but, as @rob D2 said earlier, I am not sure there are any either. I keep an eye out for something less realistic made by diecast companies for modification, but have seen nothing yet. I used to collect the diecast catalogues but had to discard them to save space. Does anyone have a back-run to suggest models one could knock into shape for something acceptable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12, 2022 The Matchbox Jumbo Iron Fairy scrubs up quite well. See Kiers emgauge70s website for further inspiration. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold C126 Posted March 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2022 18 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: The Matchbox Jumbo Iron Fairy scrubs up quite well. See Kiers emgauge70s website for further inspiration. Mike. Many thanks for that. Most encouraging. I assume this is the link: https://emgauge70s.co.uk/project_roadplant.html Will keep on searching... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, C126 said: Many thanks for that. Most encouraging. I assume this is the link: https://emgauge70s.co.uk/project_roadplant.html Will keep on searching... Yes. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 . This is an injection moulded plastic kit ; http://www.milicast.com/shop/product.php?productid=2706&cat=16&page=11 (Needs quite a bit of work) http://www.milicast.com/shop/product.php?productid=2375&cat=0&page=1 Also these ; http://www.milicast.com/shop/product.php?productid=3075&cat=0&page=1 https://sgtsmess.co.uk/product/pl3-qa-jones-mobile-crane/ https://www.langleymodels.co.uk/awd1/index.php?route=product/category&path=190_191_193&page=3 (various) . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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