shortliner Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 If you need to know what the countryside in that area looked like back then....... this is what I forwarded to OG when I picked up the first post on The Gauge Forum http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5993 I looked on Youtube and there are a heap of trailers - the scenery is superb, and might be useful for "Once upon a time....." BTW there are trains! A couple of examples. but there are a whole lot more- scroll at the right hand side This is in Spanish - but the scenery is good Have fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted September 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2012 I've got the original RDR - I'll have to dig it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I have the game on Xbox and it is quite superb. Better with HD. I've got a thing for on30, but I was thinking of lugging redwoods about but that desert could tempt me one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It's not all desert. Flagstaff is home to the biggest forest of Ponderosa Pines in the world and way back had an amazing collection of NG logging lines. As I said before it's all dependent on elevation. Outside of Flagstaff the elevation drops from 7,000 feet rather quickly to High Desert (no Saguaro's!), then down to Low Desert around Phoenix (that has Saguaros). Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 A few years back one April we were in Flagstaff and it had been snowing hard. The next morning we drove to Phoenix and it was in the 90's!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Ian, last time I flew into Phoenix it was 114f when I picked up the car, 90 minutes later in Flagstaff it was a pleasant 86f. A couple of years ago Flagstaff picked up 5 feet of snow in a 12 hour period! I could live in Sedona, which is halfway between the two (elevation not miles). Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 Pete Flagstaff is more my sort of climate as dont mind the snow. Phoenix is way too hot for me. Last year we flew into Phoenix late at night and it was still arounf 100 degrees. Luckily we flew out fairly early the next morning to Santa Barbara, just before that huge dust storm that hit Phoenix!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Try and visit Sedona, next time, if you get a chance. Yes, the centre is touristy and hippy but there are some lovely locations around there. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 As I said before it's all dependent on elevation. Outside of Flagstaff the elevation drops from 7,000 feet rather quickly to High Desert (no Saguaro's!), then down to Low Desert around Phoenix (that has Saguaros). But what if you are modeling a generic desert? Or is keeping track of where the suguaros are too nit-picky? 8-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 Low desert not far out of Phoenix back in 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Actually I was being generic Dave, by basing my observations on just where one finds Saguaros - which is being very simplistic - they are just highly visible. You have to be much cleverer than me to figure out the various kinds of brush (such as you see in Ian's photo,which is very nice by the way) that do look very similar across the different elevations. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Away from the main Ponderosa Pine forest yet close to Flagstaff at just under 7,000 feet: The "rocky" stuff is lava from an eruption of the cinder cone volcano in the background (Sunset Volcano) c1,200AD Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 Pete Thats exactly how I recal it but with a bit of snow on it in some locations! I was amazed at how much volcanic rubble there was between Albuquerque and Flagstaff that is visible from I-40. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 The whole shield that Flagstaff rests on is the remnant of one very old "Supervolcano" - if it had not blown it's top off (above where the ski lifts are now) it would have been the tallest peak in North America (according to some estimates). You can see approx. 1,500 volcanos in the area of Flagstaff most of which are cinder cones and dormant. The one closest to I40 as you leave Flagstaff heading east has actually been sold to a road re-surfacing company and you can see their large trucks spiralling around the base on most days collecting the cinders. If you missed it the best route to the Grand Canyon from Flagstaff is the one to the East that heads towards Cameron. It is a spectacular route that goes past the Little Grand Canyon (I can't remember its correct name). Turn left just before the "trading post" at Cameron. If you drove from Flagstaff to Albuquerque you passed the "Painted Desert" - which is worth a stop if only to see the biggest Dust Devils I've ever seen (around midday). I haven't bothered stopping at the Winslow meteor crater to be honest..... The town of Holbrook is interesting in a Western '50's way too! Great watching the BNSF mainline all the way to Gallup NM isn't it? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 Pete Yes think we did those routes on our travels. We went through the Petrified Forest and viewed the Painted desert form a vantage point. We also got quite a few shots of BNSF trains along this route including some from the moving car whilst I was not behind the wheel!! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I do like our cream-and-green SD70MACs. I like them better in a cooler Seattle-Tacoma climate though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Last time I was there I saw a complete train hauled by NS power.................. I do like the way that Phoenix based Warbonnets fade to Pink and Silver, ducky....very cute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Not quite but nearly: Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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