Now and Then.

[Michael Delamar]

the last shot above a few years before looked like this..

 

Aintree by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr

[Michael Delamar]

and before that it looked like this, can see the signals next to the austerity are where Ford station's wooden platforms ended.

 

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/f/ford/index.shtml

[rodshaw]

I think this thread should be kept and more photos posted of the same locations in 30 years' time.

[melmerby]

the last shot above a few years before looked like this..

 

Aintree by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr

Nice mixture of wagons on that train.

Clank-clank, clank-clank!

 

Keith

[Rivercider]

Here is another pair I have just matched up at Exmouth.

 

Set P467 waits to form the 11.30 departure for Exeter St Davids, 11/3/83

 

And 29 years later.....

Class 143 set 143612 waits to form a Paignton service, 15/5/2012

 

cheers

 

 

 

 

 

[Rivercider]

I had a trip to the Shirehampton Model Railway Club open day today

so tried to recreate this picture:-

 

Single power car 55032 stands in number one platform at Bristol Temple Meads between trips on the Severn Beach line, 26/4/80

 

Class 150 set 150130 waits to form the 12.03 departure for Avonmouth, 11/5/2013

 

cheers

[Rivercider]

When changing trains at Taunton the other day I tried to replicate this shot:-

 

Taunton East Gantry, HST set 253005 on the 14.25 Paddington - Plymouth slows for the Taunton stop.

In the East Yard pilot 08322 takes a break from shunting, visible are a number of 21t coal hoppers for the CCD, and an Aberthaw cement lorry, 24/4/81

 

With this shot, though I got the angle somewhat wrong,

A Cross-Country HST for Leeds powers away from the platform.

The East Yard has gone, and in its place is rising the Firepool Development.

The building on the left has been removed and the goods avoiding lines are also no longer there, 8/6/2013

 

cheers

 

 

 

[Thomas]

Wigan North Western, 2010 / 1969

 

 

Tom

[Rivercider]

This is a view that does not work well now, taken from over the fence at Weston-super-Mare,

 for the now shot I had to hold the camera above my head, point and hope.

 

31421 and set C571 at Weston-super-Mare, 24/8/81.

31421 is working a 17.09 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton control special in lieu of a late running Liverpool - Plymouth working.

 

 

Power car 43088 or 43089 on the rear of a Paddington service in the platform.

I could not stand in exactly the same spot as 3 new houses have been built there.

Increased vegetation and new lineside fencing also spoil the shot.

The Sea Cadets have a new drill hall and headquarters on the downside of the line, 6/6/2013.

 

cheers

[Rivercider]

Here is another pair, from Dawlish Warren

 

My mother took this of me in the middle with my late brother steve, and sister probably about 1969.

 

Mrs Rivercider took this one, some things don't change, like my ears, but it will be a long wait for a Warship, 11/9/2013.

 

cheers

 

[Pobrien]

I had a trip to the Shirehampton Model Railway Club open day today

so tried to recreate this picture:-

 

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Single power car 55032 stands in number one platform at Bristol Temple Meads between trips on the Severn Beach line, 26/4/80

 

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Class 150 set 150130 waits to form the 12.03 departure for Avonmouth, 11/5/2013

 

cheers

And a Black Five on March 12, 1964

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55350440@N06/5718213789/in/photolist-9HikJV

[melmerby]

Here is another pair, from Dawlish Warren

 

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My mother took this of me in the middle with my late brother steve, and sister probably about 1969.

 

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Mrs Rivercider took this one, some things don't change, like my ears, but it will be a long wait for a Warship, 11/9/2013.

 

cheers

In these days of increased security of railway property I notice that the wire fence has, somewhat strangely, vanished!

 

Keith

[Rivercider]

Here is a 1981 picture at Temple Meads that I tried to recreate last year:-

 

Class 119 3 car cross country set C596 stands on the Up Through Line, 47456 is waiting in platform 3 with a Plymouth - Manchester Piccadilly service, 11/12/81

 

66176 stands on the Up Through Line with an engineers train, it was top and tailed with 66174, 6/10/2013

 

cheers

 

[sir douglas]

 

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[Rivercider]

I had  a day out yesterday, and while waiting at Weston-super-Mare for my delayed service to Taunton a Cross Country service arrived

so I realised I could try to recreate this shot from 1979:-

DMU W51462 is on the rear of class 101 Met-Cam set B812 on a down working as 45073 runs in on the 10.28 Taunton - Birmingham New Street, 31/12/79.

 

With this:-

Set 221137 calls at Weston-super-Mare on the 10.34 departure for Manchester PIccadilly, 14/6/2014

 

cheers

[Pobrien]

Some then and now photos of Bristol

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/15369025568/in/photostream/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/15369025538/in/photostream/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/15369025498/in/photostream/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/15369025488/in/photostream/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/15369025468/in/photostream/

 

And one of Weymouth

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/15369025608/in/photostream/

[Rivercider]

While searching for photos for another thread I realised I had another matching pair

though as they are dated 1981 and c1993 they might be titled 'then and not quite so then!'

 

St Andrews Road looking north towards Holesmouth Junction

55032 working 09.05 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads 5/2/1981

 

BBHT (Bristol Bulk Handling Terminal) under construction  c1993

 

cheers

[melmerby]

While searching for photos for another thread I realised I had another matching pair

though as they are dated 1981 and c1993 they might be titled 'then and not quite so then!'

 

St Andrews Road looking north towards Holesmouth Junction

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55032 working 09.05 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads 5/2/1981

 

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BBHT (Bristol Bulk Handling Terminal) under construction  c1993

 

cheers

A nice pair of photos.

 

A trio of questions:

Was this area a railway yard before?

It looks like the through lines had been singled. Do you know if that was permanent?

21 years on, does the new terminal still exist? (So many seem to have come and gone!)

 

Cheers

 

Keith

[Rivercider]

A nice pair of photos.

 

A trio of questions:

Was this area a railway yard before?

It looks like the through lines had been singled. Do you know if that was permanent?

21 years on, does the new terminal still exist? (So many seem to have come and gone!)

 

Cheers

 

Keith

The area to the left of the running lines in the 1981 photo is PBA (Port of Bristol Authority) land, the grassy area was the former BR operated Royal Edward Yard which closed in 1978,

by the 1990s Bennetts were importing coal through the adjacent Royal Edward Dock. The land to the right of the running lines was I believe low lying marshy land not previously in rail use,

the tip siding was installed around 1980 and spent ballast used to raise the land up.

 

The Severn Beach line in 1981 had been double track from Avonmouth Dock Junction to Hallen Marsh, when the BBHT was built the down line became the single passenger line,

the former up line which is fenced over in the 1993 shot became a run round/engine release road for the BBHT.

 

The BBHT is still in use, though I am not familiar with current traffic levels since I left EWS in 2007,

 

cheers 

[The Stationmaster]

A nice pair of photos.

 

A trio of questions:

Was this area a railway yard before?

It looks like the through lines had been singled. Do you know if that was permanent?

21 years on, does the new terminal still exist? (So many seem to have come and gone!)

 

Cheers

 

Keith

The Severn Beach branch beyond St Andrews Road was singled in 1986 and the former Up Line became a goods line serving various places between St Andrews Road station and the main road over to the right of River Cider's photos - Norsk Hydro were in there at one time and there was also a tip siding looped off the goods line but I don't know to what extent it was ever used.

 

All of it was out of use by the time I first looked at the site and started planning BBHT in 1991 or thereabouts so I was able to use the full site to get in the track layout I needed to handle the contract tonnage and when the Perway design office did the scale drawing it all fitted very nicely.

 

I believe BBHT is still used but alas it has never been stretched to its full potential - the CEGB remit (although never made public) was to make it capable of handling 24 miliion tonnes of coal per annum serving Didcot (100% of its supply), Aberthaw (up to 8 trains per day) and one other power station (which was never clearly stated but could have been Ironbridge or one elsewhere in the Midlands).  Thus it had two very large rapid loading bunkers which were designed to load a complete Didcot train without reclaim, plus I planned the reception, departure, and run round capability to allow two trains working into and through the loading bunkers simultaneouosly while also allowing simultaneous arrivals at departures at the Portbury Terminal Jcn end of the layout.   I specifically planned the run round neck to allow trains to be worked by pairs of Class 37s but Trainload Coal decided to use Class 60s on the Didcot trains

[Rivercider]

The Severn Beach branch beyond St Andrews Road was singled in 1986 and the former Up Line became a goods line serving various places between St Andrews Road station and the main road over to the right of River Cider's photos - Norsk Hydro were in there at one time and there was also a tip siding looped off the goods line but I don't know to what extent it was ever used.

 

 

Thanks Mike for the clarification, I had forgotten how extensive the 1986 rationalisation had been.

 

The tip siding was definitely in use in february  1980, I have a photo of a spoil train heading there in my 1980s freight thread.

In the picture above you can see the tip siding partly buried in the ballast, the connection to it is hidden by the DMU,

it was by then out of use having fulfilled its function, unloaded spent ballast had been spread across the land, to raise the ground level, as far as the A403 on the right. 

 

cheers

[Rivercider]

Just before Christmas I had a trip to Topsham and while in Exeter attempted to recreate this shot from 1979 

33047 heads down the bank from Exeter Central with the 13.00 from Waterloo, 15/5/79

 

With this effort of a slightly less interesting train

Set 150128 will still be under power as it climbs the last few yards into the platform with a service for Exmouth, 20/12/2014

 

cheers

 

[Rivercider]

On a day out today I was at Exeter St Davids, and remembered i had taken an instamatic photo at the Red Cow Crossing end of the station

so I tried to replicate the photo from memory,

 

First, a double headed service lead by a class 47 and a peak wait at Exeter st Davids 6/6/75

 

And the shot taken today from near the same spot, the NCL shed has gone, burnt down a few years ago.  5/12/15

 

cheers

 

 

 

 

 

[Rivercider]

A couple of days ago on a day out I changed trains at Newton Abbot and recreated this view from 1981

 

50021 Rodney waits at Newton Abbot with the 06.35 Bristol - Plymouth a train that always conveyed parcel vans, 5/11/81

 

A class 220 Cross Country set stands at Newton Abbot on the 08.07 Manchester PIccadilly to Paignton, 18/12/2015

 

On both occasions I had just got off the train pictured

cheers

 

[Reorte]

Although in a lot of these comparisons there are numerous obvious differences I occasionally wonder how much of the change of the look and feel is also down to the camera and the high quality pictures it's easy to take nowdays. It would be interesting to see if there's some sort of Photoshop filter that would render digital pictures to the same quality as old film and thus remove that difference (a pity that doing the opposite isn't really possible).