Willy Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 . I don't know if anyone else has seen this and if not, would be interested in browsing through this English Heritage report by John Minnis. There are one or two more or less blank pages at the beginning but just keep scrolling down! http://services.engl...028-2012WEB.pdf Willy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Willy, This might be rather more noticeable if it had a relevant title rather than hiding "signal boxes" in the tags, and if it had been posted in an appropriate forum. Nick ps. I'll try to get the mods to move it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I've had a quick skim through and it looks very interesting. Thank you for posting this and I agree with Nick that maybe the title could be more informative to get more people to look at it. UK prototype would be the best place, but it's neither preservation nor discussions-it's information really and It does deserve to be looked at. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2012 Fortunately it has beem very heavily improved from the original draft version (which was truly awful and inadequate apart from a mass of errors) - now a fairly good document although I doubt if any of the replacement windows are truly 'sympathetic'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Glad to see this has been moved, I was wrong (again) Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thank you for the comments and to Mr. Moderator for moving this to a more appropriate forum. Willy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2012 What a corker! The fact that EH are looking at such things has to be Good News. ISTR the author as a railway bookseller and member of the Brighton Circle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2012 Fortunately it has beem very heavily improved from the original draft version (which was truly awful and inadequate apart from a mass of errors) - now a fairly good document although I doubt if any of the replacement windows are truly 'sympathetic'. The LNWR section is not particularly good - Monks Siding had it's steps which have been moved to the opposite end of the box (meaning it's not substantially as built), the photograph even shows the old doorway ! (although it is a type 3), Helsby fails to mention that the original brick base has been surrounded by a skin of new bricks making it look podgy around the waist and therefore not a typical type 4, the group value (with the station) clouding judgement imho. I'm not sure of the date of the information, Betley Road had long been demolished by October 2011 (the "from" research date) but is mentioned as a good example of a Type 3 ... But better than nothing I guess and it can only improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2012 The LNWR section is not particularly good - Monks Siding had it's steps which have been moved to the opposite end of the box (meaning it's not substantially as built), the photograph even shows the old doorway ! (although it is a type 3), Helsby fails to mention that the original brick base has been surrounded by a skin of new bricks making it look podgy around the waist and therefore not a typical type 4, the group value (with the station) clouding judgement imho. I'm not sure of the date of the information, Betley Road had long been demolished by October 2011 (the "from" research date) but is mentioned as a good example of a Type 3 ... But better than nothing I guess and it can only improve. I didn't look at Betley Road in detail Beast - as I was given to believe by one of EH's informants that it would have been corrected by the time this version was published. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2012 It doesn't seem to mention some places worthy of consideration for listing (speaking for my 'patch' at work, anyway), such as the disused box at South Brent, or the still-operational crossing box at Oddingley (a lovely little gem of a single storey wooden MR 4 windowed box). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2012 It doesn't seem to mention some places worthy of consideration for listing (speaking for my 'patch' at work, anyway), such as the disused box at South Brent, or the still-operational crossing box at Oddingley (a lovely little gem of a single storey wooden MR 4 windowed box). I think omissions are largely down to NR Cap'n as they (and various others) supplied the information in the first place although a lot of corrections and additions were made by others when the draft was first circulated. Best answer now is probably to contact EH? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think omissions are largely down to NR Cap'n as they (and various others) supplied the information in the first place although a lot of corrections and additions were made by others when the draft was first circulated. Best answer now is probably to contact EH? Interesting, now you mention it, Mike, I recall something circulating at work a while ago. I recall sending back an exhaustive list of all such structures on the patch.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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