Wright writes.....

[Barry O]

I have had a long holiday, then cricket has kicked in but I have done a few bits of weathering over they years

 

I do like Industrials 

 

 

Consett A Class from a JE kit by Mike Edge (4mm)

 

 

another JE kit built by Mike in 7mm Scale.. from a really interesting colour photo.

 

But other locos can be challenging - this is an S Scale North Eastern Long Boiler. It is a thing of Great Beauty but its owner Paul Greene asked for a gentle tone down.. no colour photographs of the real ting so you have to go to looking for shadows on old Black and White Photographs.

 

 

and not an air brush or paint has touched these as part of the weathering process.

 

Bazz

[nsl714]

I've weathered maybe a dozen pieces of my O scale stock. Most are still in pristine condition, with a bit of trepidation on my part to attacking items such as locomotives with hand applied lining! Of the ones I've done, my favorites are these two, a Connoisseur Macaw and Toad. These were both done with a mixture of an acrylic wash and powders.

 

 

 

Thanks,
Zach

 

 

 

[60027Merlin]

To weather or not to weather?  Yes but

 

 

 

restraint is required!

 

Edited May 19, 2023 by 60027Merlin

[lezz01]

So I just thought I would post my weathering efforts on S4 stock that I subsequently sold on a few years ago on ebay, other online marketplaces are available

I'll post some more later as I'm about to start stock building.

Regards Lez.

  

[Compound2632]

I don't really like the term "weathering". The weather is just one of the factors that results in railway equipment looking less than pristine. What we're doing is giving our models an "in-service look". Here's an example where a previous load, thought to be china clay, has left its marks on a wagon:

 

 

The current load is firebrick:

 

 

 

Devonport, 1903.  

[westernviscount]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

I've built/painted/weathered a Parkside Palvan.............

 

 

I think it turned out reasonably well. 

 

The van to its left was weathered by Rob Davey, and the one to the right has Bachmann factory-finished weathering.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

I very much enjoy building parkside kits. The fineness of the mouldings make them much more realistic than most rtr. 

 

Can I ask, did you paint the body of the palvan of leave it "nude"? 

[NHY 581]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Wonderful examples of weathering, Rob.

 

Thanks for posting the images.

 

I've weathered a Hornby ER brake van............

 

 

Perhaps not a subtle as your work. And, the safety rail should probably be in place. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for those kind words, Tony. The Toad E is a favourite of mine. I'm on hunt for a Hornby Toad B to add a bit of variety to my fledgling East Anglian backwater project. If I can waffle on for one last time....

 

For me, weathering is as much about adding texture as well as colour. Here is a Bachmann open which frankly, I had a disaster with. I eventually stripped the initial attempt and revisisted the weathering. I added "replacement" planks for contrast...I still need to add suitable numbering etc.

 

 

The second thing is consistency. I use a very limited palette, perhaps nine different weathering powders. I use these same colours regardless of the subject, wagon, loco, building, track. By doing this, I hope to draw all these different elements together. 

 

As an illustration, this building uses the same weathering powders as the wagon above....Not repainted since the mid 20s and 30yrs later its about to witness the closure of the bucolic backwater where it stands......

 

 

 

Rob. 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2023 by NHY 581
Sausage hooves

[Tony Wright]

1 hour ago, westernviscount said:

I very much enjoy building parkside kits. The fineness of the mouldings make them much more realistic than most rtr. 

 

Can I ask, did you paint the body of the palvan of leave it "nude"? 

Good evening,

 

I didn't base-paint the Palvan's main body; as you suggest, I left it 'nude'. In fairness, the colour of the plastic seemed a good rendition of bauxite, so I just dry-brushed and applied thinners until the effect seemed about right.

 

Out of interest, should the headstocks be black? 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Edited May 19, 2023 by Tony Wright
to add something

[Not Jeremy]

I wouldn't normally presume to add to this thread, but the "Toad E" is a great looking piece of wagonry, as evidenced by Tony and Rob.

 

I have been slowly chipping away at my own interpretation in a bigger scale, and recently got it "into paint", which is kind of magic as it visually pulls the whole thing together. This is Ford Dove Grey, applied slightly too generously and in need of a bit of work, but a good match for the BR colour I think.

 

 

I will be properly lettering it and them giving it a matt finish before weathering it down, but to be honest, at the moment I'm just basking in its "brake van-ness".

 

Of course this is nowhere near the magnificent East Coast main line, I rather have it as one of those found lurking around Wenford Bridge some sixty years ago.

 

I do like Pacifics though;

 

 

 

Not weathered but unspeakably lovely in its own way...

 

Sorry!

 

Simon

Edited May 19, 2023 by Not Jeremy
typo

[westernviscount]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Good evening,

 

I didn't base-paint the Palvan's main body; as you suggest, I left it 'nude'. In fairness, the colour of the plastic seemed a good rendition of bauxite, so I just dry-brushed and applied thinners until the effect seemed about right.

 

Out of interest, should the headstocks be black? 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

I think you are right to say the plastic colour is near enough when weathering is taken into account. I have been tempted to do this and I know my Dad has done so with mineral wagons. 

 

As for the headstocks, a picture I have in "working wagons" suggests they are the same colour as the body, albeit the photo is black and white! Paul Bartlett photos show bauxite headstocks also. In some cases it is hard to tell due to the weathering!

[zr2498]

A few weathering projects

 

The P2 has had many steps in the process, but is still looking pretty clean = well looked after or perhaps reluctant to go too heavy?!

 

 

DP1

 

 

Batch weathering accurascale Cemflos

 

 

 

Mk1 coach after a good clean and polish

 

 

And throw in a few minerals - trying different techniques including chipping

 

 

 

[Ian Rathbone]

I only have ten locos - I model in 0 gauge so they take a fair time to build, and I don’t have much time for my own stuff. It’s a pretty esoteric collection too, not sticking to any region, and, shock horror, there’s nothing from the Eastern region. All my BR stock is weathered but the pre-grouping is not. How could I weather this?

 

 

It was probably kept spotless for the six months that it ran like this (for Queen Victoria’s Jubilee) before being repainted to the standard black.

 

On the other hand my 2P looks quite wrong in a pristine condition.

 

 

It looks far better like this - 

 

 

 

Only a gentle touch, a few weeks in traffic maybe, but it gives it so much more life.

 

Ian R

[davidw]

2 hours ago, zr2498 said:

A few weathering projects

 

The P2 has had many steps in the process, but is still looking pretty clean = well looked after or perhaps reluctant to go too heavy?!

 

 

DP1

 

 

Batch weathering accurascale Cemflos

 

 

 

Mk1 coach after a good clean and polish

 

 

And throw in a few minerals - trying different techniques including chipping

 

 

 

How did you manage the effect on the mk1…?

[Tony Wright]

9 hours ago, Not Jeremy said:

I wouldn't normally presume to add to this thread, but the "Toad E" is a great looking piece of wagonry, as evidenced by Tony and Rob.

 

I have been slowly chipping away at my own interpretation in a bigger scale, and recently got it "into paint", which is kind of magic as it visually pulls the whole thing together. This is Ford Dove Grey, applied slightly too generously and in need of a bit of work, but a good match for the BR colour I think.

 

 

I will be properly lettering it and them giving it a matt finish before weathering it down, but to be honest, at the moment I'm just basking in its "brake van-ness".

 

Of course this is nowhere near the magnificent East Coast main line, I rather have it as one of those found lurking around Wenford Bridge some sixty years ago.

 

I do like Pacifics though;

 

 

 

Not weathered but unspeakably lovely in its own way...

 

Sorry!

 

Simon

Good morning Simon,

 

Sorry? No, rejoice!

 

WINSTON CHURCHILL is magnificent (the brake van is impressive, too). What's its scale and origin, please?

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Tony Wright]

6 hours ago, Ian Rathbone said:

I only have ten locos - I model in 0 gauge so they take a fair time to build, and I don’t have much time for my own stuff. It’s a pretty esoteric collection too, not sticking to any region, and, shock horror, there’s nothing from the Eastern region. All my BR stock is weathered but the pre-grouping is not. How could I weather this?

 

 

It was probably kept spotless for the six months that it ran like this (for Queen Victoria’s Jubilee) before being repainted to the standard black.

 

On the other hand my 2P looks quite wrong in a pristine condition.

 

 

It looks far better like this - 

 

 

 

Only a gentle touch, a few weeks in traffic maybe, but it gives it so much more life.

 

Ian R

Good morning Ian,

 

Though you might not own anything from the Eastern Region, you've certainly painted many ER locos for me down the years.

 

Below is a selection, taken in a 'layout' context.

 

I must count up one day how many, including those you painted for customers of mine............

 

 

Crownline kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

London Road and SE Finecast kits.

 

 

Crownline kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

SE Finecast kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

PDK kit.

 

 

Pro-Scale kit.

 

 

Modified Hornby.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

SE Finecast kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

Bachmann/SE Finecast.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

 

DJH kit.

 

All have been weathered to some degree or another (essential).

 

They all represent peerless painting.

 

There are many more...................

 

Regards,

 

Tony.

 

 

[zr2498]

6 hours ago, davidw said:

How did you manage the effect on the mk1…?

MK 1 weathering was a combination of about 15 steps including air brushing with acrylics, enamel pin washing, pigments and I guess the 'cleaned' effect by use of Klear down each side (scary). Then another tone down depending on how much operation after the 'clean and brush up'.

This was one of the many weathering techniques shown to me by the late and very much missed Mick Bonwick.

[westernviscount]

9 minutes ago, zr2498 said:

MK 1 weathering was a combination of about 15 steps including air brushing with acrylics, enamel pin washing, pigments and I guess the 'cleaned' effect by use of Klear down each side (scary). Then another tone down depending on how much operation after the 'clean and brush up'.

This was one of the many weathering techniques shown to me by the late and very much missed Mick Bonwick.

All your examples are excellent. The mark 1 does come across as particularly nice. 

[Barclay]

My weathering tends to mostly use the same mixture - black, with some tan and grey, diluted to taste, and sprayed all over. On the 2 steam loco's this was quite dense, and then partly washed off with a thinners-soaked brush just after it dried. The diesel had a much more dilute coat of the same stuff, left on, which was really just enough to kill the shine and tone the various parts together. In both cases powders were used afterwards and the diesel had AK Interactive 'shaft and bearing grease' on the drive chains and tensioning rods. 

 

 

[45568]

I remember clearly as a 9 y.o. boy standing in Bob Denny's shop at Sawley looking at Wills whitemetal kits with my dad. I wanted a 'Crab', but saner heads prevailed and I walked out with a Wills Caledonian 0.6.0 tank kit and a tube of Seccotine, or Uhu or somesuch to stick it together. It sat on my Tri-Ang jinty chassis and I was very proud of it!

Fast forward 60 years and I obtained an unbuilt kit of the same class from EBay for a modest sum. Despite having built several whitemetal kits throughout my modelling life, I was keen to redo my starting model. I have acquired over the years several Bachmann Jinties, including chassis units, and I decided to use one of these as the chassis.

It all went together quite well, although a fair amount of filing and filling were necessary to get an acceptable (to me) finish. I used Gorilla superglue with epoxy reinforcement for assembly, apologies to TW but I am not a confident solderer! Modern? improvements such as the use of handrail knobs, lost wax smokebox door handle and etched brass grilles helped improve on the original build!

The result...

 

 

 

Much encouraged by this first build, I picked up an unmade Gem J83 kit from Oz Ebay, again very reasonably priced. A little research showed the Jinty chassis could again be used, albeit with some modifications to brake gear/sandboxes etc.

Again, the kit went together very well, with filing/filling as usual. 

 

 

 

Please disregard the dog photobombing in the first picture!

Finishing of both these kits is made much easier by having access to internet resources  such as Rail-online to allow a specific loco to be modelled.

Overall, I'm pleased to be 'back in the saddle', and I am ready to take the next challenge, the SEF E4 2.4.0, but this will require chassis building!

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

[RThompson]

13 hours ago, zr2498 said:

A few weathering projects

 

The P2 has had many steps in the process, but is still looking pretty clean = well looked after or perhaps reluctant to go too heavy?!

 

 

DP1

 

 

Batch weathering accurascale Cemflos

 

 

 

Mk1 coach after a good clean and polish

 

 

And throw in a few minerals - trying different techniques including chipping

 

 

 

I like the finish of the P2, I think most rtr now just looks too matt a finish now when locos rarely was when clean or clean ish.

[Ncl]

Hello all. 

 

Can anyone suggest a match for the Hornby B17 numbering, Apple Green livery, tender driven, please? I have tried Fox transfers, but they are much too yellow, whereas I'm trying to match a more golden number. Many thanks

 

Nick

[Dylan Sanderson]

Hi everyone, I could do with some opinions of prototype modelling…

 

I’m about to start my first ‘proper’ layout. A NER Mainline layout set around 1920, built to EM standards. I really like the idea of modelling a prototype as close as possible, but after scouring all of my N.E books, N.E.R.A, Facebook and more, I’m struggling to come up with layout prototypes that’ll suit my needs.

 

I’m wondering if anyone has any prototype locations that may be suitable?

 

I have a 18x2ft scenic section to play with that can taper to around 3ft at either end if needs be. And I’m building in EM Gauge. I want to model a mainline, but with a branch line so I can run pretty much all types of train.

 

Previous ideas I’ve had have been a heavily condensed version of Alnmouth, York Holgate and Scarborough Shed and Scarborough Falsgrave.

 

If anyone’s got any suggestions I’d love to hear them!

 

[Tony Teague]

Before we depart from the topic of weathering, I'd like to pay tribute to the late Mick Bonwick who taught me and many others the art of weathering during courses at Missenden.

 

Here is one he did for me, a Hornby RTR King Arthur:

 

 

Plus a whole train weathered by me using his methods:

 

 

A Bachmann N class with assorted RTR & kit-built wagons.

 

For me, weathering is essential, but it takes time, and there is so much stock to get through!

 

Tony

[LNER4479]

36 minutes ago, Dylan Sanderson said:

A NER Mainline layout set around 1920, built to EM standards. I really like the idea of modelling a prototype as close as possible, but ... I’m struggling to come up with layout prototypes that’ll suit my needs.

If anyone’s got any suggestions I’d love to hear them!

 

Plenty of prototypes to go at there - heavy density of lines around Durham and Newcastle (as I'm sure you're already well aware!)

 

Couple of suggestions:

 

Ferryhill - an abundance of lines made a junction with ECML there, plus a loco shed. Perhaps a bit too extensive, but a somewhat condensed version could offer considerable interest

 

Tweedmouth - more compact but still with a loco depot. About as far north as you could get for NER!

 

I'm sure there'll be plenty of other suggestions. Good luck with it, whatever you choose.

 

[Jon4470]

2 hours ago, Dylan Sanderson said:

Hi everyone, I could do with some opinions of prototype modelling…

 

I’m about to start my first ‘proper’ layout. A NER Mainline layout set around 1920, built to EM standards. I really like the idea of modelling a prototype as close as possible, but after scouring all of my N.E books, N.E.R.A, Facebook and more, I’m struggling to come up with layout prototypes that’ll suit my needs.

 

I’m wondering if anyone has any prototype locations that may be suitable?

 

I have a 18x2ft scenic section to play with that can taper to around 3ft at either end if needs be. And I’m building in EM Gauge. I want to model a mainline, but with a branch line so I can run pretty much all types of train.

 

Previous ideas I’ve had have been a heavily condensed version of Alnmouth, York Holgate and Scarborough Shed and Scarborough Falsgrave.

 

If anyone’s got any suggestions I’d love to hear them!

 

 

Possible mainline for you would be Leeds Northern…..generally shorter length expresses with branch lines to Pateley Bridge, Masham and Thirsk

 

Jon