Chris Higgs Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Can anyone tell me the width of these? I am researching the GWR Loriot design which began with G1 and G2, then G18, G20, G14 and finally the BR built 2-241. But I have not managed to find in my reference books the width of G20. The others were as follows: G1 8' G2 8'6" G18 8' G14 8'8" 2-241 8'8" Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Chris, G16, G19 and G22 are 8ft wide. There is only a side on diag for the G20 in Atkins, Bearde and Tourret. Gordon A Bristol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 According to my copy of "Diagrams of Special Wagons" July 1939 with later alternations:Loriot E 32156 - 42164 & 42202 to 42205 to carry 15 tons (steam rollers & traction engines up to 10 tons)8'8" overall width, 8' 7 1/4" internal widthLoriot E nos. 42156, 42159 & 42161 appear to have been condemned in 1947 as I have a letter dated 21/1/1947 saying that they should be deleted from the above book.Are you researching all of the other Loriots? Because your list looks a little short. Loriot, Loriot A to H, J to N, R W and Y are listed in the above book, plus the very similar Hydra and Hydra C & D. 17 designs of Loriot vs 6 you list and 3 more listed by Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 According to my copy of "Diagrams of Special Wagons" July 1939 with later alternations: Loriot E 32156 - 42164 & 42202 to 42205 to carry 15 tons (steam rollers & traction engines up to 10 tons) 8'8" overall width, 8' 7 1/4" internal width Loriot E nos. 42156, 42159 & 42161 appear to have been condemned in 1947 as I have a letter dated 21/1/1947 saying that they should be deleted from the above book. Are you researching all of the other Loriots? Because your list looks a little short. Loriot, Loriot A to H, J to N, R W and Y are listed in the above book, plus the very similar Hydra and Hydra C & D. 17 designs of Loriot vs 6 you list and 3 more listed by Gordon. Thanks for the info. No I am not researching all the Loriots, I am nearly finished with the design of a 2mm kit that will build the diagrams that were based on the G1/G2 design of 1889, which are the ones in my list. I may in the future do a kit to cover the 'curvy' Loriots i.e. G17, G13, G40 and the BR diagrams 2-245, 2-250, 2-252. The dimensions of these are all known though. If anyone knows of a good drawing of these (i.e. a G.A., not the sketch diagrams the GWR produced) I would be interested to hear. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 These are the G.As in the NRM/OPC lists:- 6474 G.A. of 8 wheeled 25 Ton truck (LORIOT R) 1903 8552 G.A. of 4 wheel 6 Ton Well wagon (LORIOT) 33'6"". 1905 8554 G.A. of 4 wheel Wellwagon 15 Ton (LORIOT E) Lot 2087. 1949 8555 G.A. of 4 wheel Wellwagon 20 Ton (LORIOT M) Lot 969. 1926 8558 G.A. of 4 wheel Wellwagon 15 Ton (Loriot) Lot 618. 1909 8562 G.A. of 4 wheel Well wagon 6 Ton (LORIOT) 1905 8590 G.A. of 4 wheel Well wagon 12 Ton (LORIOT) Lot 491 1889 8592 G.A. of 4 wheel Well wagon (LORIOT L) 15 Ton 994 of 1926 8658 G.A. of 4 wheel well wagon (LORIOT C) Lot 214? of 1880 12165 G.A. of 8 wheel 25 ton truck (Loriot R) GWR 1912 There may be some that would be of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hi, Does anyone have any info on GW Loriot P 42356 ? Thanks, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted April 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2015 Built 1945 to diagram G42, it's illustrated in Atkins, Bearde and Tourret. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thanks Pete, Any idea how long it lasted? PS: have you any info on a GW 25ton bogie bolster No. 107344? I'm assuming it's a J25. I get very confused with these Macaws. Cheers, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted April 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2015 Yes, it's a J25 (MACAW H). I don't have any withdrawal dates but Paul Bartlett's site includes a Loriot P that lasted until at least 1985 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrloriotlowmac/h168eeb56#hff82e34 and various J25s in use by BR as crane runners in the '70s http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrbolster Edited to add links Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thanks Pete, I'm obliged to you. I have a whole raft of wagon pictures in my possession dating from about 50 years ago which I'm trying to identify. As a wagon ignoramus it's a tall order! May I ask one more bolster question for you as you seem to be the guru ! LMS 20T double bolster No. M725809 in grey. I have a picture of it taken at Eastleigh in July 1950. Any idea when it was built etc? Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted April 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2015 Diagram 2067, wartime build to lot 1315, circa 1942. at least one survived to '83 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsplate/h3cff813f#h3393bd08 Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thank you so much Pete. Would you mind if I beat additional paths to your door on other vehicles? Cheers, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted April 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't mind, but I only have some basic reference books. I'm not a fount of knowledge like Paul Bartlett (for example). Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Does anyone have any info on GW Loriot P 42356 ? Shown as extant in both 1956 and 1964 issues of BR special wagons books. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks Pete, very much appreciated. And to you John for the extra info on the Loriot. Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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