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Well this is a nice little story - a while ago I posted this photo taken at Heathrow Airport over on Pistonheads in the 'period classics' thread and looking at it again this afternoon I thought I'd type the reg' number of the dark coloured Mk2 Jag into the DVLA tax checker page to see if it still exists, low and behold '5 VPH' is still with us and used to belong to a contributor to 'Classic & Sportscar' magazine...

 

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On the subject of Jags, here's a bit of a mystery. The green car is a replica of the Jaguar XJ13, the unique original of which is at the British Motor Museum at Gaydon. The replica has the obligatory V-12 engine mounted amidships, yet according to DVLA, the car is registered as a 1955 3442cc model. The photo of the white Mk V11 was taken by myself (as a youngster) at a campsite in Penmaenmawr, North Wales, in 1962 - the car then  belonged to my uncle, and that's my cousin standing proudly in front of her dad's car. Shortly after that photo was taken, the Jag was involved in a shunt with a Ford 100E from which it never recovered - uncle only had third-party insurance, and couldn't afford the repairs to the front end. As far as is known, after standing outside at a local garage for a couple of years, the car went for scrap around 1964/5, and that should have been the end of it. Imagine my surprise when I found the photos of the modern-day PBT 55  !  I am assured by Jaguar experts that the front of the replica is too low to house the old 6-cylinder XK engine, and that the wheelbase of the MkV11 would be wrong for the XJ13 - so what's going on? I've contacted both the Jaguar Owners Club and the Jaguar Drivers Club in a bid to get in contact with the current owner, if only to pass on a little history of the car, but to no avail. On a happier note, Oxford Diecast produced a very nice model in 1/43 (7mm) scale of the original car, after a suggestion from myself.

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2 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

As sad as these sights are, there is definitely a sense of forlorn romance about an old Jag withering away when neglect sets in or mother nature takes over...

 

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The first one looks as if its been stripped for spares, no dashboard or window frames but oddly the rear lights and the luggage rack are intact.

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3 hours ago, fodenway said:

On the subject of Jags, here's a bit of a mystery. The green car is a replica of the Jaguar XJ13, the unique original of which is at the British Motor Museum at Gaydon. The replica has the obligatory V-12 engine mounted amidships, yet according to DVLA, the car is registered as a 1955 3442cc model. The photo of the white Mk V11 was taken by myself (as a youngster) at a campsite in Penmaenmawr, North Wales, in 1962 - the car then  belonged to my uncle, and that's my cousin standing proudly in front of her dad's car. Shortly after that photo was taken, the Jag was involved in a shunt with a Ford 100E from which it never recovered - uncle only had third-party insurance, and couldn't afford the repairs to the front end. As far as is known, after standing outside at a local garage for a couple of years, the car went for scrap around 1964/5, and that should have been the end of it. Imagine my surprise when I found the photos of the modern-day PBT 55  !  I am assured by Jaguar experts that the front of the replica is too low to house the old 6-cylinder XK engine, and that the wheelbase of the MkV11 would be wrong for the XJ13 - so what's going on? I've contacted both the Jaguar Owners Club and the Jaguar Drivers Club in a bid to get in contact with the current owner, if only to pass on a little history of the car, but to no avail. On a happier note, Oxford Diecast produced a very nice model in 1/43 (7mm) scale of the original car, after a suggestion from myself.

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Beautiful XJ13 replica and a lovely old family photo!

 

Here's an appropriate reg' number on an E-Type...

 

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47 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

More old Jag nostalgia...

 

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They appear to have chosen to have their picnic in / on a Loggers pile...   somewhere to sit, rather than the snow, I suppose.

 

Anyway, what I was going to say, was that there was a delightful Daimler, V8 of similar vintage.  I got to deliver one back to it's owner, from our local garage in Crediton to way out in the sticks beyond Doddiscombsleigh.  It was beautifully smooth and handled like a dream.  I always wanted one, but never quite matched opportunity with availability.   🙄

 

 

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2 hours ago, jcredfer said:

 

They appear to have chosen to have their picnic in / on a Loggers pile...   somewhere to sit, rather than the snow, I suppose.

 

Anyway, what I was going to say, was that there was a delightful Daimler, V8 of similar vintage.  I got to deliver one back to it's owner, from our local garage in Crediton to way out in the sticks beyond Doddiscombsleigh.  It was beautifully smooth and handled like a dream.  I always wanted one, but never quite matched opportunity with availability.   🙄

 

 

 

The Daimler V8 / 250 is very smooth and there are still plenty about, currently there are sixteen for sale on carandclassic.com. The Daimler version of the Jag 420 is a very nice car too, probably the pick of the bunch in many ways...

 

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22 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

Does anyone recognise the location of this photo of an S-Type Jag...? It looks very LMR to me, at first I thought it was one of the stations on the Bletchley to Bedford line but the level crossing doesn't look right...

 

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I liked the development of these Jags...   but...  I can't help the feeling that the back end doesn't quite match the style of the other end.   Sort of like a job half done...   nice, but, ummm...??     🤔

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

I'm biased because I fell for the oriiginal S-Type the moment I clapped eyes on one.

 

I'd always considered the boot of the Mk.2 looked a bit weedy in relation to the rest of the car.

 

 

Someone photoshopped an S type estate and it looked pretty good IMHO. It looked better than one based on the MkII.image.png.c6b62bcd0de6731cdb869bedf0c71357.png

There is a company making Mk. II convertibles that look quite smart.

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Oddly enough (honest) I took a detour via Browns Lane this morning on the way in to work, inside Fender Broad's showroom at the bottom end of the road was a gorgeous British Racing Green Mk1 in proper racing trim, it looked very much like these beautiful examples...

 

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Watching a short film from the mid-fifties, "Calling all cars" yesterday morning on Talking Pictures TV,  I noticed a very nice Jaguar XK120 roadster, registration MDU 524 which was one of the featured vehicles. In the story, it started out from London with disc wheels and full rear spats, but miraculously lost the spats and acquired wire wheels by the time it reached Dover! Given the Coventry registration, I would guess that the car was supplied directly by Jaguar for the film. Upon checking the DVLA website later, I found that the car is still on the road. It's quite surprising how many vehicles seen in decades-old films still survive in use today.

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On 07/12/2022 at 11:28, Hobby said:

Had a couple of 1.6s, a GL and an L, lovely cars to drive. Very rare nowadays in basic form, though.

 

One of the problems is that when a race or rally-spec Escort is wrecked in competition, often a standard spec one is cannibalised to provide replacement parts.

 

Which is unfortunate as it's the standard spec cars that are the real history, not the track cars.

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On 19/12/2022 at 22:23, PhilJ W said:

Someone photoshopped an S type estate and it looked pretty good IMHO. It looked better than one based on the MkII.image.png.c6b62bcd0de6731cdb869bedf0c71357.png

There is a company making Mk. II convertibles that look quite smart.

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I remember seeing one parked outside my office pre-pandemic.

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9 minutes ago, RJS1977 said:

 

One of the problems is that when a race or rally-spec Escort is wrecked in competition, often a standard spec one is cannibalised to provide replacement parts.

 

Which is unfortunate as it's the standard spec cars that are the real history, not the track cars.

The lack of standard spec escorts is partly due to the way that Ford engineered them to have a short life. Low values until the turn of the century meant that it was only worth sa ving the RS models. Today RS prices are stratospheric and everyone wants that Mexico replica with a modern engine. Even the "more doors" have developed a cult following with 200 bhp brigade. In terms of bodywork almost all parts are available but the cost of bodywork on an RS and an 1100 L are almost identical. The Mexico replica will always be worth more than double the value of the base model. Simple economics.

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