Fat Controller Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The 1961-62 WTT shows the following . "J.75 - Llanelly Yard and Copper Works Junction" . Llanelly Yard (Spion Kop) dep 07:20 Copper Works Jct. ...........arr. 07:25 Copper Works Jct.............dep 07:45 Llanelly Yard ...................arr. 07:50 . On the return the destination is shown only as 'Llanelly Yard' - minus the "Spion Kop" . The plot thickens ? . Brian R Looks as though this might have been the Bachelor Robinson trip, reversing at Copperworks Junction. There's no reference to 'Spion Kop' on any of the maps in the relevant edition of Cooke's 'Track Layout Diagrams'- I shall ask our Elizabeth if she's ever heard of it, being a Seaside girl.. Just found them; it's an alternative name for the No 2 group of Llandilo Jct Down Sidings, installed sometime between 1906 and 1913. The odd thing is that the name doesn't appear on any of the plans until the 1967 one, with a note saying they were closed in 1968. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South of 1E Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 Been a few years since Ely had a pilot? Heres a wonderfully weathered 08100 and brake van resting back on December 8th 1982 NR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Barrow hill TMD class 08613.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 Looks as though this might have been the Bachelor Robinson trip, reversing at Copperworks Junction. There's no reference to 'Spion Kop' on any of the maps in the relevant edition of Cooke's 'Track Layout Diagrams'- I shall ask our Elizabeth if she's ever heard of it, being a Seaside girl.. Just found them; it's an alternative name for the No 2 group of Llandilo Jct Down Sidings, installed sometime between 1906 and 1913. The odd thing is that the name doesn't appear on any of the plans until the 1967 one, with a note saying they were closed in 1968. I wonder if they were an official name - like Kimberley Sidings at Old Oak or Crimea Yard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Been a few years since Ely had a pilot? Heres a wonderfully weathered 08100 and brake van resting back on December 8th 1982 NR Thats the toy one - in my day it was an 03! Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 South Wales - September 30th. 1973. Distribution of (some) shunting locos - not all locations listed.. 2119 Landore MPD (87E) 2120 Landore MPD (87E) 2122 Landore MPD (87E) 2142 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 2144 Landore MPD (87E) 3185 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3189 Severn Tunnel Junction 3256 Cardiff Docks 3258 Radyr 3259 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 3260 Cardiff Docks 3262 Cardiff Docks 3263 Cardiff Docks 3264 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 3266 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 3267 Doncaster Works 3268 Cardiff Docks 3356 Swansea East Dock 3409 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 3420 Radyr 3421 Barry 3422 Radyr 3423 Cardiff Central 3424 Barry 3430 Port Talbot 3431 Margam MPD (87B) 3432 Margam MPD (87B) 3433 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3435 Margam MPD (87B) 3436 Margam MPD (87B) 3437 Margam MPD (87B) 3438 Margam MPD (87B) 3593 Cardiff Docks 3594 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3596 Newport 3602 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3603 Cardiff Central 3604 Llantrisant 3745 Pantyffynnon 3748 Radyr 3756 Radyr 3760 Radyr 3761 Aberdare 3762 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3804 Swansea East Dock 3806 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3812 Briton Ferry 3818 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 3819 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 3824 Aberbeeg 3825 Swansea East Dock 3827 Swansea East Dock 3828 Landore MPD (87E) 3830 Swansea East Dock 3960 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) 3972 Newport Docks 3986 Swansea East Dock 3987 Landore MPD (87E) 3990 Severn Tunnel Junction 4011 Newport Docks 4012 Severn Tunnel Junction 4014 Newport 4016 Newport Docks 4024 Aberbeeg 4124 Newport Docks 4021 Newport Ebbw Junction MPD ((86B) 4127 Landore MPD (87E) 4162 Severn Tunnel Junction 4174 Briton Ferry 4182 Cardiff Canton MPD (86A) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 3263 Upside pilot, Radyr yard, mid 1973 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 3263 Upside pilot, Radyr yard, mid 1973 Earth fault! Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Must be something about shunters in the Cardiff area, firstly Radyr now .... . 08589 is seen in the dirt near the site of the former Cardiff East Dock shed and Stonefield Jct ; derailed en-route from the Queen Alexandra Dock back to the Cardiff Rod Mill, circa 1977/78 . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 And another one off the road and in the dirt. . 08951 returning empty billet wagons from the Cardiff Rod Mill sits precariously outside the Tremorfa Works. . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Not Captain Kernow Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2013 A few from my collection: - 08 644 at Long Rock 08 847 at Woking 08 953 and 08 645 at Laira 08 724 at Kings Cross 09 020 on the linkspan at Dover 08 743 at Cleethorpes 08 508 at Garden Street, Grimsby I know the same can be said for so many places, but having recently visited Grimsby and Cleethorpes again it was very sad seeing how much has gone. On a happier note here is 08 410 at Penzance on the regular Night Riviera shunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2013 I'll raise your one on the linksppan with my two on the linkspan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanders Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 We can give the '03's some love, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Has anyone on here got any pictures of 08 shunter with slave 08 shunter?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted July 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2013 Has anyone on here got any pictures of 08 shunter with slave 08 shunter?? Do you mean Class 13? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_13 Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Ah, the good old days... Here's a variant on the theme: back in the golden age of the 1970s, which yard or station pilot had the least regular work to do? For example, the Bournemouth class 07 station pilot would shunt a couple of vans in the middle of the night, and that was it. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Two current pilots 08480 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9383439172/ 08632 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/9380729131/ An 08 in trouble 08343 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7566431262/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7360512462/ Master and Slave 13002 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5643878786/ 13003 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6706421973/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Wigan spring branch,scrapping of class "08666 BR blue".... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 The lists provided by Brian (br2975) show that there had been large numbers of 08s outbased at Swansea Eastern Depot for shunting in the docks and other local yards. By the 1980s the traffic was much reduced, but still provided work for 3 pilots, two in the docks, as well as one in Swansea Burrows. Swansea Burrows pilot 08780 is moving a rake of unfitted 21t minerals loaded with export coal, they had recently arrived from Onllwyn behind 37506. 19/9/86. One of the docks pilots, 08367, propels loaded 21t minerals towards the docks past King's Dock Junction Signal Box, 19/9/86 cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2013 Alas River Cider's pics above area an all too telling picture of why the shunter numbers have dwindled. The picture below was taken in September 2012 looking in more or less exactly the opposite direction to the picture above of Kings Dock Jcn - the grey shed in the centre of my picture is the one visible on the left beyond the signalbox in River Cider's picture. What little coal there is still passing through the port mainly arrives in lorries and trying to pinpoint the site of Kings Dock Jcn signalbox is now nigh on impossible - one whole load of pilot turns lost forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Alas River Cider's pics above area an all too telling picture of why the shunter numbers have dwindled. The picture below was taken in September 2012 looking in more or less exactly the opposite direction to the picture above of Kings Dock Jcn - the grey shed in the centre of my picture is the one visible on the left beyond the signalbox in River Cider's picture. What little coal there is still passing through the port mainly arrives in lorries and trying to pinpoint the site of Kings Dock Jcn signalbox is now nigh on impossible - one whole load of pilot turns lost forever. IMGP8200 swansea Kings Dock.jpg There's now only a single track passing under the Fabian Way bridge, where once there were four roads, fed by some very complicated junctions. I thought the only coal passing through now was imported; certainly, some used to go from here by rail. Most of Burrows Yard has gone, and that which is left serves mainly as a run-round for traffic to and from Onllwyn. I remember it in the mid-late 1960s, when dad used to take me along to King's Dock and Elba works, which SCoW were converting into barrier stores for export tinplate. There were always locos moving wagons around, including some steam tank locos when I went there first. These days, my friend Chris Lewis, who lives on one of the streets overlooking the docks, tells me it's rare to have more than one ship in at a time, unless there's something in the Dry Dock. What ship were you on when you took that photo, Mike? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2013 Brian, the ship was the THV Patricia - which bases for some of the time at the quay immediately on the right (as viewed in that pic) of that same shed, the shed is used for cement which arrives by ship. The coal was being brought in by lorry and there was a ship on the south side of Kings Dock loading on that day (although possibly not with coal) while another one had sailed loaded from the north side of the dock the previous afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Brian, the ship was the THV Patricia - which bases for some of the time at the quay immediately on the right (as viewed in that pic) of that same shed, the shed is used for cement which arrives by ship. The coal was being brought in by lorry and there was a ship on the south side of Kings Dock loading on that day (although possibly not with coal) while another one had sailed loaded from the north side of the dock the previous afternoon. Peak time, Mike! One of my great-uncles used to work on one of the predecessors of the Patricia, which in those days took provisions to all the lighthouses and lightships in the area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanders Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I was looking for something else, but as we seem to have a bit of a "run down" theme going on, I thought this was rather nice: 08900 on the old Avonside Branch, in 1984. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolian Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I was looking for something else, but as we seem to have a bit of a "run down" theme going on, I thought this was rather nice: 08900 on the old Avonside Branch, in 1984. Ooh - one of my shots . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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