freebs Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 It could be the light in the kitchen. I agree, it looks about right in the above photo, but I think the yellow walls behind it may have influenced the tone captured in my phone's camera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2014 The colour looks bob on to me mate and if there is a hint of green to it then I wouldn't worry as the stone round here has a slight tint to it too (as does the mortar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Robinson Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I am still in shock. I was looking for a button for "horror" in the ratings but there isn't one... Jason's photographs are great and reminded me of when I used to live in Lancs...sandstone and millstone grit buildings, all uniformly black until the seventies. I had also forgotten the trick of raised pointing...glad that nobody has asked me to replicate that. Anyway, Lee, whatever you do I am sure it will be perfect when you have finished. Like the others wiser than me have said on this thread, keep looking at the real thing. Incidentally, the rust on those light green drainpipes on jason's council building photo is wonderful...quite an inspiration! cheers, Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2014 stoned.jpg The whole building has now been treated to a coat of Humbrol 84, which is a little greener than I'd hoped for, but it's going to get weathered anyway. I'll see what it looks like tonight when I get home from work, then possibly I'll give it a light wash with Humbrol Sand acrylic to lighten it off and put some mortar in the joints, before attacking it with some browns and black I agree with Jason and Jeff, I don't think it needs a Matt Sand wash, it would make it too warm looking. I think it looks spot on as it is. As I said in PM and as Jason said above, a touch of olive green is exactly right for this stone. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Keep us posted on developments....so we can all get ready to scream......enough.....stop already!!! Am positive you will make a good job of. Again. Then you must really move on to something new. Love your work. So glad you didn't want to rethink the actual building as well Once the recolour is done, shall look forward to more of your work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Didn't get very far last night. Was convinced the Humbrol 84 was wrong - way too green, but I have since rethought, having looked at Jason's building thread and will persevere with weathering - see where it goes from there... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Didn't get very far last night. Was convinced the Humbrol 84 was wrong - way too green, but I have since rethought, having looked at Jason's building thread and will persevere with weathering - see where it goes from there... Freebs I don't think you can go far wrong with the Humbrol 84 and Jason seems to have it right. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Freebs I don't think you can go far wrong with the Humbrol 84 and Jason seems to have it right. Duncan Yeah, Jason's is just about perfect, but mine looks like it's been painted with camouflage paint! It just looks so olive - but I think I'm comparing it to photos of buildings that are cleaner and definitely more yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Have you any of the same materials left to create some "swatches" Lee? Rather than tinker with the actual model, a few bits of the same material to try different paints and washes might save you a world of heartache. With notes made a useful future reference also. I work in print so am well aware of the intricacies of colour, including effects of substrate, pigment, reflective light et al. The Pantone swatch is God in my game! Then some wiseass wants blue ink on yellow paper...tsk. C6T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Incidentally, the rust on those light green drainpipes on jason's council building photo is wonderful...quite an inspiration! cheers, Iain The paint looks like Humbrol Cockpit Green. Could be worth a bash on one of my freelance projects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Following the coat of Humbrol 84, I decided that I really, really didn't like it. I don;t know whether I'd not mixed it the first time I tested it or what, but the first test looked a great match for what I wanted, but the actual coat folowing a thorough mixing, looked a more (admittedly close match to the lid) olive colour.. so... I covered the whole thing with a new colour I mixed from a base of Magnolia, adding in some Humrol dark earth, Artists' Yellow Ochre and a bit of Lemon Yellow, and used this as a base to work on. I first, using the dab-on-with-a-bit-of-cloth method added on some Humbrol dark earth and then when dry, added over the top some weathered black. It's looking very filthy again, but nowhere near as grey as before. I'm going to need to touch up all the window frames (I've actually knoccked one window out) and all the downpipes, but I think it's getting there. Apart from some fettling and scratching out of filled in mortar courses, that's the road side done - i've just got to add the black weathering to the track-side now! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2014 Must admit, the final look is probably worth the repainting marathon That's looking great, and you and Jason were right, the light mortar and dark stone look spot on. Nice one mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) That looks pretty much spot on Lee. Well worth the extra effort. Will you be adding any moss colour and stain runs under the sills etc? Edited February 17, 2014 by Sasquatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I do plan on fine tuning it once most of the grime has been applied. There are small issues such as the roof slates lifting off and a couple of the downpipes having come loose that need to be addressed also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2014 That's normal! There's a whole box of drain pipes, pub signs, chimney pots, bits of glazing, doors and other junk waiting to get restored here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'd already knocked one drainpipe off before I even started the repaint. The plus side is, that there are still 4 pipes to make for the rail side elevation. Maybe I'll get round to making them now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2014 Lee - how many times have I told you to STOP repainting things? So - listen to what the "critics" here have written. They like it. It's spot on for the area and period. Excellent stuff! Now please don't even think of painting it again - you probably have something else to repaint! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hi Lee, yes it looks spot on from this old Far*s eyes, and if Jeff and Al amongst others says its right then PLEASE LEAVE IT ALONE. :locomotive: :locomotive: Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Lee STOP It doesn't need any more work or painting. Do what Jeff says and leave it alone. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Guys, thanks, yes, I'm happy with it now. I've finished dirtying up the track side tonight, so all I have to do is go and tidy up all the window frames, clean the windows, then repaint all the down pipes. The cream bargeboards want touching up too. Then I'll add some posters/signage to the exterior and consider a basic canopy. I'm thinking something more covered roof than ornate trusswork like Al's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 LOL I agree, nice paint job......careful with the touch ups, some LIGHT weathering.....then move on. Just like act_mr you now need to pop it on the layout and get a photo sorted for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) sssh Lee , only you and I know it was a ruse it was the plan all along to get it this good and you just wanted to see the look on peoples faces Really nice job, but not sure i would hold my nuts so close to the fire...respect. Edited February 19, 2014 by Kal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Stonework finished again now, but alas Ive not managed to photograph it in a decent light, so new pics will have to wait. In the meantime, I've drawn up a new plan to throw up in the air. It's a very basic plan, and shows me up for the apprentice to a Novice railway modeller that I am - it's only really a pair of running lines with the scope to add two smaller lines inside. The size is approximately 10ft x 6ft. I say approximately, because I haven't measured it recently to check I'm not happy about the way my current larger curves look, and I'm worried I've compressed them to allow for longer straights to the possible detriment of badly running locos, so I've devised this plan to make the largest curve a 30" radius The inside line is obviously slightly less than this and I'll space the curves at about 40mm centres to avoid carriage fouling, but this should provide me with a nice sweeping curve out of the station. The red curve represents 4th Set track radius, Blue - 3rd and Green 2nd. I've left them on the plan to give me an idea of what curves I have to play with. The first few incarnations of the track layout have all been laid freehand, so this time I'm going to lay the template out. At the moment there is not a lot of space for the Goods Shed I've built, and there's an awful lot of dead space at the top end of the layout, but there's not enough space to run storage lines. If anyone has any thoughts on the plans, I'd be grateful. Edited February 21, 2014 by freebs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Robinson Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Lee, I know nothing about track plans, so can't comment on that...it looks a scheme with scope for some fun. But the station building...it does look a little, well, green...doesn't it? ONLY JOKING! It's superb!! cheers, Iain (runs off down the nearest adit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Lee I know where you are coming from because I have been there, but if it were me I would try and reduce the number of loops, considering your scratch building quality, you want to set it off as well as you can , so maybe have just 2 loops, or if possible just the one. I think your buildings will set off the atmosphere much more than 3 trains all running around at once. I have seen fantastic single line working layouts, just a thought. I am speaking from a distant memory and much less experience than many here, but I think 40mm is too tight for the spacing on curves, but of course it depends on how long your coaches are. A mark 3 would I believe struggle, but I do not suppose you will be running coaches that long? What sort of train classes will run? Another thought is , does the well have to be central to the layout? Could you have a scenic and none scenic side? That way you could have just one track on the none scenic side leaving more options on the scenic? Edited February 21, 2014 by Kal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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