freebs Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) I started this layout nearly three years ago... it started life as a board to put my son's Hornby trackmat on... I got carried away and extended it horizontally and vertically... it got ridiculous, so I took it apart and made a new, bigger table.... I laid out a station, put in a couple of carriage sidings and planned a high level track. I even built about 5ft of Scalescenes retaining wall, which I then decided I didn't like, so I pulled it out. I changed my mind about the high level and turned it into an elongated figure of 8 which would run over a curved viaduct at the end of the layout, but I was having trouble getting the curve to flow across the space I had, so this all came out. To my son's dismay I took all the track up again and started to lay it out again, but then got sidetracked modelling buildings which has occupied the last 5 months... ...this week I had a day off, so following the previous weekend's track laying progress I cracked on again and fitted two main lines. Now, this isn't modelling a prototype, it's not a particular location and it most certainly is not following any normal kind of track layout, it's purely and primarily a layout for my son and daughter (and yes, of course, me) to play trains on. But.. it's also a layout to hone my modelling skills on. I intend on making the best buildings I can, and I'm going to pay a lot of attention to the scenery, and it's hoped - the kids will help too - my daughter is itching to make something. The one thing I have thought about, is the location - whilst not historically and geographically accurate, I'm basing it in West Yorkshire, a medium sized town under the auspices of the LMS -the name comes from an amalgamation of the two villages we live between It's also roughly set in the early 60s in the transition era so a lot of grime and soot on the buildings.. This is an overview of the layout in the garage at this point I was struggling with the curves on the mainline - the initial track laying was too tight - trains derailed on the outer curve and collided on bends this is the start of the easing out of the curves playing with additional lines here - a branchline running off, and in the foreground a possible high level track (I don't want it all flat earth) This is a shot of the opposite side of the station - initial thoughts were two storage sidings, but after trying out track tonight, I'm beginning to think about a third platform, a bay, seeing as this line links up with the branchline. views up the platforms (temporary structures) a Shot of the station lines with the signal box in the foreground A photo of the station building I've been working on in situ temporarily Some time ago, I was working on a new (to me) techique for making stone structures and built a couple of tunnel portals so tonight, I had a test run to see if they'd fit the new track layout, and yes they do! so, that's where I am with this. It's a bit of a mess at the moment, but the important thing for my son, is that I've got two lines temporarily wired in so he can at least play trains while I think of the next plan of action. The station will fit trains of 5 coaches (although it takes up a lot of room) so the next stage is to mark out where the new platforms are going to go, and make a start on building these. Then it's on to soldering in droppers for the power feeds (it's a DC layout, but I want to make it as electrically connected as possible) before I can have a go at my first ever bit of ballasting.. Edited January 19, 2017 by freebs 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Robinson Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 A fascinating glimpse into your putative empire! I'm following. This will be fun to watch grow, and I am sure Cameron will be pleased with the state of affairs. His imagination will fill in the gaps while you catch up. It's looking great, especially your super buildings. cheers, Iain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Those buildings look absolutely gorgeous even on your naked layout. The glare from the white paint wrecks some of the pictures though, I would suggest going out and buying a tub of chocolate suede dulux and slap it on the places where you will plan to put the scenery. It will not only kill the glare, but it is a fine colour to pop grass on top of, and it looks nice on the areas where you need walking areas, it gives like a nice fine gritty finish. As you are slapping it on use a second smaller brush to add a little black (a small tester pot will do nicely)for a touch of weathering when the two colours mix together rather than painting on dry you get sme nice effects, having seen your colouring on the buildings I am sure you can manage a touch of weathering.... Check out the DIYs for some damaged insulating foam (cheaper). When colouring get 3 old kitchen spray bottles, mix a grey a brown and a thin black, try mixing them on newspaper then full throttle, Hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs, just a little push for some pretty picture. Thsat lovely big window will help you get some great pictures when your further down the road, I prefer those taken at dusk for the shadows. As Iain says looking forward to watching the progression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lee how did you make the tunnel portal,just point me in the right direction if you already posted this somewhere.I've four single track portals to make and your stonework is really convincing did you scribe the stonework and lintels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hi Iain, apologies, I've only just seen this as I've not followed my own thread! The tunnel portals are all scratch built in the same way as my buildings - I blogged about it here: http://www.lnrmodels.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/another-tunnel.html and a bit here: http://www.lnrmodels.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/now-with-added-wings.html and a bit here too: http://www.lnrmodels.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ok-i-spent-weekend-finishing-off.html and here was the first foray into the world of foamex scribing: http://www.lnrmodels.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/scribing-scalpels-and-foamex.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Those buildings look absolutely gorgeous even on your naked layout. The glare from the white paint wrecks some of the pictures though, I would suggest going out and buying a tub of chocolate suede dulux and slap it on the places where you will plan to put the scenery. It will not only kill the glare, but it is a fine colour to pop grass on top of, and it looks nice on the areas where you need walking areas, it gives like a nice fine gritty finish. As you are slapping it on use a second smaller brush to add a little black (a small tester pot will do nicely)for a touch of weathering when the two colours mix together rather than painting on dry you get sme nice effects, having seen your colouring on the buildings I am sure you can manage a touch of weathering.... Check out the DIYs for some damaged insulating foam (cheaper). When colouring get 3 old kitchen spray bottles, mix a grey a brown and a thin black, try mixing them on newspaper then full throttle, Hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs, just a little push for some pretty picture. Thsat lovely big window will help you get some great pictures when your further down the road, I prefer those taken at dusk for the shadows. As Iain says looking forward to watching the progression. Cheers Jaz as you might be able to glean from the images, it's a bit early stages yet - I only started 3 years ago!!!!! I've kind of gone around it backwards and should really have fixed the garage up first, but I take on board your comment there. First stopp is to try and remove the condensation issue I'm getting from the steel roof before I get to the walls. The entire layout is under plastic sheeting at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted November 13, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2013 I'd forgotten how lovely your station building and signalbox were; spot on mate. You can't beat a bit of soot-blackened stone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Aw, cheers fella. I was contemplating dry brushing with Sandstone colour to try and reduce the blackening a bit! I think I'll have to go and blacken the tunnel portals up a bit more when they're in situ - they look cleaner than the station now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Thanks for the info. Lee.Your foamex walling looks really good I really like your idea of using Random Ashlar Scalescenes printout as a template for marking out the stonework.When and if I ever get round to my more scenic work on my layout I'm going to need acres of retaining walls,tunnels and viaducts.This could well be the way to go. What paints take to the foam can you use watercolours,acrylic, oils etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Your nippers are very lucky to have such lovely buildings on their railway! The spirit behind it is just what I am trying to do with mine, something that will be entertaining for all to run trains on, but as detailed as my skills allow. I reiterate Jaz's suggestion about the brown paint. I use that under all my grassed areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 I haven't tried watercolours, I usually use Emulsion and Acrylic. I find that a spray with a cheap primer helps first, but just as good would be a quick paint over with white emulsion. There's a slight shiny surface to the foamed that doesn't take neat paint very well, as I've found! I plan to scribe all stonework, but am wondering if I might be biting off more than I can chew. Certainly cladding with paper is fast work (but I don't like the flatness) and covering with embossed plastic sheeting is quicker, with great results (but very expensive for large areas) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Spray first then acrylics seems the way forward then.What I really like is this stuff comes in large sheets therefore no joints as with Wills sheets etc.I was thinking of scribing Das clay but as I said I've loads of walling to do.Think I'll give both methods a go and see which I prefer.I'll definitely give the scalescenes print out idea a go it should work with either method. Edited November 13, 2013 by iainp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Definitely yes - we get loads of offcuts of the foamex stuff at work - I'm currently making platform sides from a single 2.4m long sheet of 3mm foamex. It's a lot of scribing, but is seamless and looks good when painted up. I'll see if I can get a photo with the camera phone 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Am glad you are getting a little time to do some modelling, will look forward to the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) OK, a little bit of scribing going on here; first pic is the long 2.4m sheet of 3mm foamex, onto which I've marked a 16mm tall strip. I've then divided this into 4 big courses of stone and commenced scribing The horizontal lines were initially marked out with a scalpel and then with the aid of a transparent set square, vertical courses scribed in with the tip of a dart, and the horizontal lines fleshed out with the same A 4mm wide strip of 1mm foamex is then glued on to the top course and scribed with detail. Onto this, eventually the platform surface comprising a piece of 2mm foamed will be fixed overlapping by 1-2mm. This will then be scribed with edge stones and I haven't decided yet whether to make the main surface tarmac or stone the lot... in the above photo you can also see the makings of another row of edging underneath - I'm leaving the strips on the main sheet until all is scribed as it's easier to handle. At this point, I may have to add 3mm to the bottom of the edge strip as I've cut a socket out of the 3mm foamex I've laid down as a cork replacement so far, I'm not sure how long the platform is, so there is only one ramp cut at one end... This is going to be slow progress, but I hope to keep you posted with updates as and when I can. Edited November 13, 2013 by freebs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 ...and.... as I continue with the platform building, I'm in the mood for a building. I've nowhere yet to put it, but I've started work on a Goods Shed... This is the elevation plan which I've drawn up in Illustrator, then printed onto self adhesive paper, then mounted onto 2mm Foamex: This is two parts of one of the side walls cut out - there will be a raised section of stonework on each side and this is what these two layers represent And here is what the two together look like: I've started scribing the stonework now, and slow as it is, it's really very enjoyable - I just wish work didn't get in the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Robinson Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Looking very good, Lee. cheers, Iain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 OK, a little bit of scribing going on here; first pic is the long 2.4m sheet of 3mm foamex, onto which I've marked a 16mm tall strip. I've then divided this into 4 big courses of stone and commenced scribing The horizontal lines were initially marked out with a scalpel and then with the aid of a transparent set square, vertical courses scribed in with the tip of a dart, and the horizontal lines fleshed out with the same 2013-11-13 13.08.34.jpg A 4mm wide strip of 1mm foamex is then glued on to the top course and scribed with detail. Onto this, eventually the platform surface comprising a piece of 2mm foamed will be fixed overlapping by 1-2mm. This will then be scribed with edge stones and I haven't decided yet whether to make the main surface tarmac or stone the lot... 2013-11-13 13.08.53.jpg in the above photo you can also see the makings of another row of edging underneath - I'm leaving the strips on the main sheet until all is scribed as it's easier to handle. At this point, I may have to add 3mm to the bottom of the edge strip as I've cut a socket out of the 3mm foamex I've laid down as a cork replacement so far, I'm not sure how long the platform is, so there is only one ramp cut at one end... This is going to be slow progress, but I hope to keep you posted with updates as and when I can. Looking good. Are you sure you're not working in my workshop - I've got the exact same ruler and adjustable set square !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 haha - that's the workbench at Work - you're not me are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2013 Like the way you're layering up the goods shed to get the relief, nice job and looks like it will be lovely. I must get hold of some foamex and give this scribing lark a go. Cheers, Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Al - we get the industrial sheet sizes, but Ebay seems to be a good source of A3-sized pieces. Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 inner layer scribed: (bit difficult to see on white, but here it is) I usually build up the structure first and then scribe the stonework around it, but this time I've decided to try building up each elevation in turn, then gluing together. The plan will be to fill the butted up edge, then scribe detail back in, thus hopefully disguising the join Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted November 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2013 Your scribing your great Lee, but how in the world did you texture the stone faces? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 It's just random scribbles with the tip of a dart... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Well, although it doesn't look like it, for me, a lot of progress was achieved mostly on Friday night with the scribing of one of the end walls, Pieces have been cut and marked for the opposite long wall, with Operation Scribe 2 about to commence this evening I test fitted a wooden lintel made from a couple of coffee stirrers laminated together and I'm pretty pleased with how that looks *edit* the black bits on the parts is residue from the self adhesive vinyl I printed the elevations onto and left behind when I peeled it off. It should come off with a bit of lighter fluid Edited November 18, 2013 by freebs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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