Classsix T Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Well it'll be GWR180 before too long... As an active preservationist myself, as long as past and present owners end up satisfied, paint frothers can go whistle. C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well said, its my engine, I'll paint it what colour I like!, and if you disagree, there's the paint brush and the number of the paint supplier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I remember well 49 of the class in large logo and 007 in green. Whatever peoples thoughts, it was blue from new till blue large loco until 1984 then green ever since - nearly 30 years. I like locos to remain in as ran condition. I've never been keen on loadhaul, maroon with yellow stripes or two tone green. But then, I'm not in overralls each Saturday keeping them running or raising funds. Just keep her running and maybe mainline certificate 007. Best of luck whatever the livery outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I always remember it as one of the first 50's I ever saw........in a properly work stained, filthy blue, sounding like a bag of nails on full chat on 1M07 out of Coventry. It never seemed to be cleaned. Rose tinted specs, granted, but it looked good. Strangely it was the last one I copped for haulage.......in green. I was never a fan of it in that colour, but it's certainly grown on me. As someone above pointed out, it's been that way for 30 years now, an there are plenty of other 50's out there wearing blue, LL or variety colours. Leave it as it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 50007 and 37190 have passed the fitness to run and the ultrasonic axle test, so the move from Butterley goes ahead tomorrow, traction should be 47739 47749, here's the times http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R41790/2013/09/28/advanced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted September 27, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2013 Well said, its my engine, I'll paint it what colour I like!, and if you disagree, there's the paint brush and the number of the paint supplier. That is ok as long it is not pink. Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I was going to say that to me GWR green on 50007 is as much a part of the loco's identity as red frames on City of Truro or apple green on Flying Scotsman. Then I remembered... :-( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2013 traction should be 47739 47749, booked as 56094, was planned to be 56113! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 47739 47749 37190 50007 pass Kingsbury earlier today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 According to the latest Rail Magazine, Neil Boden has bought it to go mainline to tow D306 and 61306 Mayflower around and that he has a "soft spot for 50's". He is also reported to be ditching the GWR Green livery as he has "too many green locos already". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 According to the latest Rail Magazine, Neil Boden has bought it to go mainline to tow D306 and 61306 Mayflower around and that he has a "soft spot for 50's". He is also reported to be ditching the GWR Green livery as he has "too many green locos already". How dare he. A loco owner spending his money, his time, on his loco and painting it the livery he wants, It will never catch on Joking apart I wanted to paint a 25 I part owned into large logo blue only to gt a load of flack so that plan failed, but a other group on site painted there 40 into it without any fuss Robin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoffers Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 50007 should remain in Brunswick green livery, it was different from the norm and should be kept that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold CovDriver Posted October 2, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2013 You read it in RAIL magazine we all know that actually means LIAR and to be honest who cares what livery it's going to be in as long it's another 50 on the mainline !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 2, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2013 out of interest what is happening to the 37 in the consist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The change of ownership can only be good for 50007, as the CFA were clearly lacking the funds to keep it in decent order...the release of funds will hopefully allow them to make progress with 40012's bogies and whatever else needs sorting out properly. Personally I never saw 50007 in blue when in service, so if bodywork repairs dictate a repaint I'd quite like to see it as such, perhaps backdated to as built condition where cosmetically possible....like 50002 or 50044? The green paint never bothered me either, along with the 4x GW150 47's it looked pretty smart to my eyes...the only thing I wasn't keen on was the rather excellent 50046 being used as a parts donor when 50007 was revived from the scrapline in 1992 for the final railtours after it had fried its main gen and a couple of motors the year before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 2, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2013 out of interest what is happening to the 37 in the consist? I'm sure Gary will answer that one Jim, although followers of him on Facebook have an idea already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 thanks Ian for the prompt, the CFA, have sold the loco for a few reasons. lack of funds, so why let it rot on the yard, when someone else was willing to take it on. diminishing numbers of working members working members not getting any younger ! rent for leaving the loco on the yard the fear of getting 50007, usable, and something expensive going wrong that would be financially prohibitive for us to put right the other two locos needed work and it was stretching our recourses So the answer was there when Neil came along with an offer, and with the deal we have secured the following More money will be spent on D212, (the money for the bogie work is already sorted) some bodywork needs attention and a repaint. 37190 is to have bodywork attention, repaint and mechanical work (by the CFA) to bring it up to tip top condition while it is at WWH. So all in all, we are happy with a good outcome to a bad situation, the decision has been a difficult but necessary, and very hard for one shareholder. As for the colour, well thats up to the new owner, i do know his intension's, but i'm not letting on even under torture, from the most probing of forum interrogations. Neil Boden is moving very fast, and we expect the loco to be started next week , and i will go further and say move under tis own power, so thing are looking up all round. the only bad thing for the new owner is that he has to put up with the paint it brigade for as long as he owns it, we have had the burden for the last 19 years. Gary Hinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I have just though, no longer will i have to squeeze my bulk through those tight internal doors, and catch my shirt on that bloody bolt, that sticks out, heave myself into the clean air compartment.............what you say Niel, "you can come anytime Gary", were's my overalls! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Flashheart Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Hi Gary! Thanks for your updates regerding the locos sale, always nice to hear first hand info, it must have been a tough decision for you guys after 19 years owning the loco and I hope you continue to have sucess with the 37 and 40. As for the livery, well since its departure south last year, I spent 10 years as a working volunteer on 50027 Lion at the NYMR and we were constantly pestered to paint it blue but never did they offer to pay for it so I know exactly what you mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Pre GWR I only saw Hercules in 'tatty' blue livery. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Hi Gary! Thanks for your updates regerding the locos sale, always nice to hear first hand info, it must have been a tough decision for you guys after 19 years owning the loco and I hope you continue to have sucess with the 37 and 40. As for the livery, well since its departure south last year, I spent 10 years as a working volunteer on 50027 Lion at the NYMR and we were constantly pestered to paint it blue but never did they offer to pay for it so I know exactly what you mean. I would say stick with the NWSE livery, that’s how I remember 27. The new owner, is in touch with me, and is making great progress, so, its a relief that at last something is going in the right direction for 50007, just to put a price on things, Neil has already changed the oil and filters, I would put a price of around £1500, for these. Now for the lumps of lead and acid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 The green paint never bothered me either, along with the 4x GW150 47's it looked pretty smart to my eyes...the only thing I wasn't keen on was the rather excellent 50046 being used as a parts donor when 50007 was revived from the scrapline in 1992 for the final railtours after it had fried its main gen and a couple of motors the year before. I didn't know until last week why 50007 was chosen to be painted Green, but I'd be interested to see the list of the other proposed names that were rumoured at the time (and duly abandoned). And if it's just paint and cast metal, exactly how many times since have other preserved 50's been reumbered as "Hercules"...? It's probably just my age, but I'll also remember it as Eddie, and the WR always seemed to keep it as a celebrity (I cabbed it on a tour around Laira in 1987). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 IIRC there were plans to rename at least 4 of the 50's. 50016 Barham was next in line to become Sir Felix Pole, but thankfully the plan was abandoned and the name ended upon a HST power car instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I've always wanted to see a power car in lined GWR green (with choc/cream coaches!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted October 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2013 I've always wanted to see a power car in lined GWR green (with choc/cream coaches!). OT, but when Great Western Trains first appeared on the scene, a number of livery mock ups (repainted 00 gauge HSTs) were published in RAIL. These included a version of GWR chocolate and cream, which looked really smart, and a variation of the theme which substituted the chocolate colour on the power cars for brunswick green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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