RMweb Gold JCL Posted October 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hi there I'm very interested in the railways in Lincolnshire and the Skegness area specifically. I'm afraid I'm not much use at identifying coaches other than the more well known ones and was wondering if anyone could identify the coaches in photos in two ebay auctions that are on for the next couple of days. The auctions are: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rail-Photo-LNER-GER-Coach-Skegness-station-Lincolnshire-GNR/390673858791?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16581%26meid%3D1876666069897902871%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7839%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D390673858791%26 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rail-Photo-LNER-GCR-Coach-Skegness-station-carriage-sidings-lincolnshire-GNR/390672889859?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16581%26meid%3D1876672311559125770%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7839%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D390673858791%26 There were two other auctions that are over now http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rail-Photo-LNER-GCR-Coach-Skegness-station-Lincolnshire-GNR-/390668770601?pt=UK_Collectables_Railwayana_RL&hash=item5af5ac5d29&nma=true&si=LfQd4xoL40xn9J1KNvj4ose5mqs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 The middle one here looked like a Gresley Suburban http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rail-Photo-LNER-Coach-Skegness-Carriage-sidings-yard-Lincolnshire-GNR-GCR-/390671120909?pt=UK_Collectables_Railwayana_RL&hash=item5af5d03a0d&nma=true&si=LfQd4xoL40xn9J1KNvj4ose5mqs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Does anyone recommend a good book about LNER (and constituent) coaches? Sorry I can't post the photos themselves. cheers Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The first is a GER 50' BTK, available from D & S (recently), Bill Bedford or Worsley Works. The second is a GC BCK (with a Barnum next to it) - Bill Bedford or possibly Falcon Brass when they reintroduce their coaches. The third is either NER or ECJS, 'matchboard' third - may or may not be vestibuled, I don't know them well enough to tell. D & S or Bill Bedford for that one once you've got an exact ID. The last one is a Gresley CL (D50?). Hornby do this one, as do Comet and probably MJT. Any of Michael Harris' books are useful to identify and learn about LNER and GNR coaches: there aren't really any definitive books on the coaching stock of the pregrouping companies, you're looking at society journals or magazine articles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The middle one here looked like a Gresley Suburban http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rail-Photo-LNER-Coach-Skegness-Carriage-sidings-yard-Lincolnshire-GNR-GCR-/390671120909?pt=UK_Collectables_Railwayana_RL&hash=item5af5d03a0d&nma=true&si=LfQd4xoL40xn9J1KNvj4ose5mqs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 A Gresley CL, possibly still in varnished teak livery? In 1959? The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted October 11, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2013 Thank you jwealleans, that was really useful information - I'm pleased I asked! I'll have a look into those books as Christmas is coming up. Unfortunately brass coach kits are beyond me, but it's cool that they are available. The Nim - it does look like that, especially when you take into account the tone and finish of the one on the right that could be in maroon. Am I seeing something that maybe isn't there, or are there really some 1's on the doors. I'm not sure many first class passengers travelled to Skegness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 A Gresley CL, possibly still in varnished teak livery? In 1959? The Nim. Nar… it's on it's last legs, note the missing beading on the doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 A Gresley CL, possibly still in varnished teak livery? In 1959? The Nim. I don't think the date is correct,; the van still has NE and no E before the number. I think it would be very unusual for freight vehicle to survive so long without the E being added to the running number. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I agree with Paul about the van - the BTK is fairly smart and looks recently repainted, so a 1959 date doesn't look right. The CL does look tatty, which might be teak or faded crimson. The class numbering looks BR and there doesn't look to be any 'NE' or 'LNER' lettering on the far end so on balance I'd agree with Bill that it's a scruffy (possibly withdrawn?) example. You'd really need to see the original print to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I agree with Paul about the van - the BTK is fairly smart and looks recently repainted, so a 1959 date doesn't look right. The CL does look tatty, which might be teak or faded crimson. The class numbering looks BR and there doesn't look to be any 'NE' or 'LNER' lettering on the far end so on balance I'd agree with Bill that it's a scruffy (possibly withdrawn?) example. You'd really need to see the original print to be sure. I doubt that Skegness would be used for withdrawn vehicle storage-apart from the huge amount of traffic at holiday times Lincoln was far more convenient for Doncaster as a storage and gathering point-eg withdrawn DMUs in the 1980s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted October 12, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2013 Basing this on next to nothing, would it be the case that if the seaside excursions were extras, any stock that was serviceable and to hand would be used as it was in addition to regular timetabled trains? Would this lead to an eclectic range of older coaching stock being used? I have an extra question if you don't mind me asking, and this really does display my ignorance. There are coaches either side of the central coach, would vestibuled and non-vestibuled coaches ever be seen in the same train? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I would question whether the date of 1959 is correct for all of the photos. They seemed to have been taken at various dates in the 50s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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