Tricky-CRS Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I am about to start a layout based on Truthall Halt on the Helston branch. I am interested to find out more about the Serpentine rock movement by hoppers towards the end of the line. I have established that some of the hoppers appear to of LMS origin and at least 4 seem to be at Helston at any one time. I have not found any pictures of the hoppers in a train. So did they travel in normal goods trains or on their own, how many at a time were moved? Also were the trains worked by class 22's as per most of the rest of the traffic? All so where was the stone taken too and use for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 ooohh, this will be a good layout. 4mm of 2mm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 At least one use for it is shown on Wikipedia:- Neutron shield in nuclear reactors[edit]Serpentinite has a significant amount of bound water, hence it contains abundant hydrogen atoms able to slow down neutrons by elastic collision (neutron thermalization process). Because of this serpentinite can be used as dry filler inside steel jackets in some designs of nuclear reactors. For example in RBMK series it was used for top radiation shielding to protect operators from escaping neutrons.[9] Serpentine can also be added as aggregate to special concreteused in nuclear reactor shielding to increase the concrete density (2.6 g/cm3) and its neutron capture cross section.[10][11] As to where it was taken to, I can find no information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Hi, Just reading through John Vaughan's "Branches and Byways Cornwall" book, class 22's took over all passenger and freight services on the line between November 1962 and October 1964. Hope this helps. Best regards, Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 N gauge 1:148 layout, using laser cut plywood sleepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Hi Richard, Laser cut plywood sleepers???? Sounds interesting. What rail will you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 I will be using British Finescale chairs and code 40 rail. Hopefully get the test cut sleepers in the next week, I will be getting the hoppers designed for me by Wild Boar on here in due course just need to work out how many to get made. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get the Dapol Members weathered class 22, and will then have 2 of them for this layout. I will start a thread on NGF for this layout at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 I have had a play with the laser cut sleepers using chairs from British Finescale. Does anyone have any information on the hoppers and their movements on the branch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 HI there Richard have a look on Cornwall Railway Society for any clues / answers In the mean-time I will ask my In-law as he had alot to do with cabbages (believe it or not) on the branch and also daffodils at Gwinear. Give me a few days and hopefully I'll give you an answer. Interesting layout idea aswel. Edit: add link http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/helston-branch.html Pictures there are nice and clear. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Hi Jack Thank you I think the hoppers were kept in 2 or 3 at Helston at a time but some picks suggest more but none show them in a train. I think they may have gone in the standard frieght but not sure. Any info you can get will be wonderful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Possibly 24ton and 21ton? Theres a difference in height on the prototype pictures between the ton varients. I would guess that, too. Mixed freight of 12 or 10 ton vans, hoppers (coal and serpentine) plus appropriate brake van. A lot of shunting potential for a layout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Richard. Im afraid my in-law couldn't remember exactly what rakes ran on the branch. Any progress on the layout? Cheers Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinerChris Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Richard, It was good to see you again at St Albans. Just remembered to dig this out, that might explain the LMS link with its use as a flux in steel-making. Perhaps a bit of a better explanation than using it for creating sculptures. http://www.resources.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/238205/Serpentine.pdf Similarly http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/proceedings/01/minecarb/kramer.pdf If I remember correctly the serpentine on the Lizard is reddish, green or black (Despite what the NSW factsheet says), although not being a geologist I may have been looking at something else. Perhaps the whitish mineral was something else, Lime perhaps? Best Regards. Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hi Jack, Thank you no news on layout as I am hopefully getting the boards today. Hi Chris good to catch up at the weekend St Ruth is looking stunning and thank you for the info above, have a good trip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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