South-East Rail Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Hello. I'm starting my third layout (the others being my original 6x4 foot tail-chaser and my ongoing depot), based loosely on the station at Deal in Kent. Here is the initial trackplan: (Each square = 1 square foot) The lines going off towards Sandwich are on the left, and those heading towards Walmer are on the right. The layout also features an extended Network Rail siding with a headshunt. I plan on operating more freight than is perhaps realistic (There aren't any regular flows east of Folkestone!) as an endless stream of EMUs would be a bit dull. Any advice would be welcomed. Regards, Ed Edited July 10, 2014 by South-East Rail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted December 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2013 the siding on the Sandwich side has been relayed recently for engineering traffic if i recall correctly was also used extensively during the building of the channel tunnel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Deal Kent, railway station Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=8041.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://www.colonelstephenssociety.co.uk/EKLR%20Map.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://www.kentrail.org.uk/Deal.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 the siding on the Sandwich side has been relayed recently for engineering traffic if i recall correctly was also used extensively during the building of the channel tunnel You're right about the siding, I saw it a couple of weeks ago. Didn't know about the Chunnel stuff, thanks for the info. http://www.kentrail.org.uk/Deal.htm Thanks, lots of useful stuff there. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Answer to my email sent to Andy a good friend of mine,earlier this evening, The Dover Deal line, passes,the end of his garden........... Evening Dave. I guess Ed will be watching your Electrostar conversion with interest (I bet Hornby produce one as soon as you've done a couple!). Like Ed says there is little other than Electrostars using the line nowadays but there is some variety that I can think of off hand: Javelins run through ecs between Dover and Ramsgate. Network Rail test trains are frequent visitors (either running through or turning back running in/out via Sandwich). I have photted t'n't 73s (73107/109/138/201) and t'n't DRS 37s on the line or at Priory in last couple of years. Prior to that it was GBRf 73s. NR 31/DBSO combos run overnight to Priory and may go through Deal Deal was a regular destination for the VSOE British Pullman during the summer. I can't remember off hand which way it ran though. This would be t'n't DBS 67s There are also railtours running south through Deal. There are gauging issues on South Eastern (allegedly/when it suits them) so steam tours are restricted in haulage usually to Tangmere or Tornado often with a WCRC 37/47/57 on the back. Diesel tours are generally powered by WCRC locos t'n't. When the Open golf was last held at Sandwich there were several special trains run. British Pullman ran each day ( DBS 67s), DRS 47s t'n't the Northern Belle MkII Pullmans (thurs/fri) and a grubby set of MkIIs was t'n't by DBS 66/67s. All trains ran via Priory and returned south for servicing at Folkestone/Dollands Moor/Tonbridge, reversing the procedure in the evening. SE ran additional 12 car Javelins. In the autumn Windhoff MPVs are allocated to a rail cleaning diagram daily running via Deal to Dover and back. In the winter 73/GLV combos work alongside MPVs as required on deicing/sandite trains. There's also the snow trains which run as required (I'm not sure if any ran via Deal though) with a variety of locos t'n't - GBRf 73s, NR 57s, Colas 66s and WCRC 33/37/47s. Engineers trains always run southbound through Deal due to gradient out of Dover (unless that's the line being replaced!). Up to this summer most big jobs in East Kent have been shared by GBRf and DBS (so mostly 66s from either company and the odd double headed by 73s). However, DBS have now pulled out of the Network Rail market so we should see more variety from Freightliner/Colas/NR. Hope this is helpful for starters. I can provide pics for Ed to supplement any of above if he wants (subject to usual copyright). Cheers Andy Howard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) One of the "Test Trains" in Dover Priory, they also run through Deal. Photo David Todd. Edited December 17, 2013 by David Todd 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Answer to my email sent to Andy a good friend of mine,earlier this evening, The Dover Deal line, passes,the end of his garden........... Wow, loads of great info there - there seems to be quite a bit of variety. Thanks very much to you and Andy. Nice photo of the test train as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just need to ask, Andy will send pics to me and I will upload to your thread, as and when you request.......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just need to ask, Andy will send pics to me and I will upload to your thread, as and when you request..........Thanks, that would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Update: Today saw the construction of the baseboards - two 8 x 2-foot boards end to end. Surprisingly, these were finished in a day. Construction is of plywood mounted on pine baton, 3 foot off the floor. Hopefully I'll be able to post some pictures soon. I also laid out some of my new Peco Code 75 concrete-sleeper track, to see what the track plan looks like in real life. I have to say I'm very impressed with the Peco track compared to the standard Hornby stuff! I joined five 1-yard lengths together and ran 67018 up and down a few times just for fun - now I'm really keen to get the cork underlay and track fixed down - then it's on to wiring, ballasting and weathering! Regards, Ed 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Looking forward to your progress Ed. Get some 33s and 73s on to it. Bettshanger coal trains with a 33 on the front of it They even had a 47 or 56 very occasionaly. So perhaps you could do that as well. For example It might not have been routed through Deal...but was in the vacinity! lol didnt want to post a picture of my track car ...lets try that again!!!!! Edited December 22, 2013 by SouthernBlue80s 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 A subaru never visted Deal station This is what I meant..... http://www.google.de/imgres?client=firefox-a&hs=jVZ&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&biw=1333&bih=624&tbm=isch&tbnid=fJlb8JkE6pJV_M:&imgrefurl=http://railwayherald.com/imagingcentre/view/277469/LC&docid=wm4vREMQxPVrzM&imgurl=http://railwayherald.com/images/ic/750/277469.jpg&w=750&h=504&ei=W3e3UqPgJcndsgbU04HoCA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=385&page=3&tbnh=138&tbnw=225&start=44&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:46,s:0,i:226&tx=119&ty=95 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Looking forward to your progress Ed. Get some 33s and 73s on to it. Bettshanger coal trains with a 33 on the front of it They even had a 47 or 56 very occasionaly. So perhaps you could do that as well. For example It might not have been routed through Deal...but was in the vacinity! lol didnt want to post a picture of my track car ...lets try that again!!!!! Sounds good! I'll have to get round to sourcing some MGR hoppers (and suitable traction) at some stage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Bettshanger coal trains with a 33 on the front of it They even had a 47 or 56 very occasionaly. So perhaps you could do that as well. For example It might not have been routed through Deal...but was in the vacinity! I seem to remember them going the other way with two 33's on the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 I seem to remember them going the other way with two 33's on the front. Might get one or two when the new Heljan version comes out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 Good evening. A quick pre-Christmas update: I haven't done any more work on the layout but here are a few shots of the baseboards along with the first train to run on them. Perhaps something like this will run on the layout when it's done... Hope everyone has a very happy Christmas! Ed 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Dover Priory to Deal. 2013 Photos, David Todd. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Nice photos!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Dover 2013 Photo's, Copyright of Andy Howard. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Dover 2013 Photo's, Copyright of Andy Howard. Brilliant, some very nice shots there! Quick update: Today I started cutting out the cork underlay for the track. Father Christmas was very generous and gave me 31233 in NR yellow, some IOA ballast wagons and some IPA car carriers, amongst other things. More photos soon! Regards, Ed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) RailTours, are optional............. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzOEtdGPgI Dover Naff Video & Photo Company. Edited December 29, 2013 by David Todd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Another Summer Railtour........... [ Photo, David Todd. Tail End Charlie. Edited December 29, 2013 by David Todd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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