RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 13, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hi all after watching a DVD on Czech Railways I was fascinated by the whole area the DVD showed a lot of DB stock running on CD lines. Anyway as I said I was fascinated by it so much so that I've just ordered a ROCO class 754 (don't ask why I never know ) now I need to find something to run behind the 754 I believe this loco would as a rule run on passenger working is that right? Have a look here, Stock. Should be something to help. http://www.cztrain.com/sdruz/ Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 13, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2014 Took a trip on the branch line which runs from Obramovice to Sedlcany today. Great run. 810 rail bus. To cap it all, including rail travel, three lunches and two pints came to less than a tenner. A few photos taken at Sedlcany then ... Rob. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 copious amounts of Kozel and the contents of several unlabelled bottles of unknown clear alcoholic liquid The Kozel's ok. But after one (only one!) session on the clear alcoholic liquid I'd never touched that stuff again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2014 I prefer the Kozel Dark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The last photo the one with the hopper was it unloading coal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 13, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2014 No unloading taking place but all the conveyors etc were in place so I suspect it does go on. Can't say for sure though. I am with you re Kozel dark, Ian. Goes down a treat. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 13, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2014 A further couple of views of Sedlcany. Rob 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hi again could anyone please point me to where I'll find any info on station track plans any help would be very welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) And I drink local whenI'm home, Cerna Hora (Black Hill) Posted Today, 19:07 Hi again could anyone please point me to where I'll find any info on station track plans any help would be very welcome Hey, in regards to your 754 - pretty much anything, this loco is so called "universal" so passenger coaches and cargo cars alike. Also depends on what era you model, if your dvd is quite recent then yes you would see a lot of DB cagro stock as there's one of main transit lines to Austria and eastern countries. Station track plans, real ones here: http://diskuze.modely.biz/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5039 and here: http://diskuze.modely.biz/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5038 Model track plans, there are tons on above forum, I will post some links later, some may require registration, for example works of Milal Ferdian whom also published books Plany Kolejist 1 & 2. Quick peek: https://www.google.cz/search?q=planky+kolejist&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=C0PEU6LrD6WS7Aa2pIAY&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=667#q=Milan+Ferdian&tbm=isch BR Marian Edited July 14, 2014 by mastanec Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 15, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 I think I am right in saying Plany Kolejist 1 is currently out of print. I bought no. 2 from the Prago models book stall on Masarykovo last year, about £15. I used Google earth to get track plans, you can use street view at the same time. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 15, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 Visited Chynov station last night. Station is in a village where the other half s family have their country house. A couple of photos then..... Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Not being sure if we will get back to Prague before we go, I ordered a Bardotka from AMB on Sunday evening. Arrived COD yesterday. Very impressive service and the model is really nice. A photo then, taken this morning on the veranda. The model really does capture the look of the prototype. Rob. Edited July 17, 2014 by nhy581 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 Now you just need ot make it look battered!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 Mmmmmm, I know. A large gin prior to any weathering me thinks. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Mmmmmm, I know. A large gin prior to any weathering me thinks. Rob. How do you like its weight compare to the goggles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Marion. The Bardotka seems to be a lot heavier but I am still in Czech so difficult to be sure, as the Goggles is back home. It feels very solid but I think the detail on the Goggles is better. I am very happy with the Bardotka and will hopefully buy more MTB in the future. I think the Bardotka is MTBs best model though when compared to the 721 and 742. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I'd say so too that Bardotkas are their best model. 721 is second, 742 lost it under par, totally. Well, there has never really been much detail on bardotkas, but its true roco has slightly better detail. Marian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taigatrommel Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 What are the issues with the 742? I haven't got an educated enough eye to spot anything from the pics I've seen. I'd been hoping they'd introduce it in TT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2014 I am interested too in the class 742 in HO. Problably not ideally suited for Dobris although they do / did run to Cercany on the scondary line that Dobris branches off, and they do appear in most areas of the country I do fancy one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 What are the issues with the 742? I haven't got an educated enough eye to spot anything from the pics I've seen. I'd been hoping they'd introduce it in TT. I am interested too in the class 742 in HO. Problably not ideally suited for Dobris although they do / did run to Cercany on the scondary line that Dobris branches off, and they do appear in most areas of the country I do fancy one. Hi lads, its the overal impression from the model, I myself was looking to get 742 "Bangle/Bangladesh" myself, I was looking forward to it more than the 721. - pink lights, possble to fix by drop of translucent red paint - shape and size of the fuel tank - the X under the louvers in the long hood, prototype has this formed into tent shape, on the model it looks like press stamped - i guess this model i okay for a layout where you will watch it from 3ft away, I woudl not put it on display where the most intricate detail can be seen see here, prototype: MTB model ©AMB: Radek Ciba: https://picasaweb.google.com/rdkcbr88/FotkyStavba7422587 Built from DK model brass etch. If you feel confident building/like building of brass etched models, then this is for you. I have one worked on for a long time now, only if i had time to finish it. @ Ian, why not? I would not be suprised if they do go to Dobris from time to time, it is after all one of the most common engines in former Czechoslovakia BR Martian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi lads, its the overal impression from the model, I myself was looking to get 742 "Bangle/Bangladesh" myself, I was looking forward to it more than the 721. - pink lights, possble to fix by drop of translucent red paint - shape and size of the fuel tank - the X under the louvers in the long hood, prototype has this formed into tent shape, on the model it looks like press stamped - i guess this model i okay for a layout where you will watch it from 3ft away, I woudl not put it on display where the most intricate detail can be seen see here, prototype: MTB model ©AMB: Radek Ciba: https://picasaweb.google.com/rdkcbr88/FotkyStavba7422587 Built from DK model brass etch. If you feel confident building/like building of brass etched models, then this is for you. I have one worked on for a long time now, only if i had time to finish it. @ Ian, why not? I would not be suprised if they do go to Dobris from time to time, it is after all one of the most common engines in former Czechoslovakia BR Martian They may well get up there but I have yet to see any photos of them on that line, although due to the steep gradients this might be why I have only seen shots of Bardotkas on the route and class 714's on the 4 wheel class 10 passenger trailers. Until a class 714 is released (or if I fancy having a go at the brass kit) the 742 would do on the trailers on the layout. The handrails also look a little chunky and are wrong on the fronts and steps bit otherwise the fuel tank could be reprofiled and that panel under the grille could be fabricated out of styrene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taigatrommel Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thanks Martian, I see where you're coming from now. Now I see the issues, I think it's probably still less work to correct them than to build an etched kit, though it's horses for courses as to what we enjoy doing as modellers. They're not yet announced in TT though, so for now I'm just dreaming... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thanks Martian, I see where you're coming from now. Now I see the issues, I think it's probably still less work to correct them than to build an etched kit, though it's horses for courses as to what we enjoy doing as modellers. They're not yet announced in TT though, so for now I'm just dreaming... We picked up ready built resin and brass mechanism TT scale ones a few years ago from the shop in OStrava Hlvani. Both ran fine till one had a failed motor but that now has a Mashima motor in it. The other one still runs fine. The detailing and working lights is superb, as good as a ready to run loco. However as to whether these arestill made by who ever is another matter. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 18, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2014 I fancy a 742 myself but one thing I have noticed is the ribbing on the cabsides. Do all have this. I note the above photo from Marion does not seem to have this and neither does the MTB model. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I fancy a 742 myself but one thing I have noticed is the ribbing on the cabsides. Do all have this. I note the above photo from Marion does not seem to have this and neither does the MTB model. Rob. I hope galleries here answer your question, its design http://www.prototypy.cz/?rada=742 the lower series had no ribs on cab, and had 3 ribs on frame, also different frame for the headlight with each series. For this I think is really best the DK model kit, as all those parts are included and you build according to your documentation and photos. MTB costs around 160euro. DK model with athearn S2 chasis 30 bucks less, but gives you option to fully customize up to your needs. As Taigatrommel mentioned above thats whats modeling is about, for example I am still afraid t odo mods on RTR models but I'm not afraid to do these mods whils building a kit. Well the 742 is older than 714, so they may have been there on more than one ocassion. BR Marian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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