The Black Hat Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hello all, As part of my plans for my layout, Im wondering if there are still any flows or workings on the main network with leading freight companies that have used either VGA wagons, or Cargowaggons. Within the last 10 years or so.... Any help here would be great. Thanks in advance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Right now, VGA/VKA are the standard vans for MOD traffic, used countrywide, and have been for many years. Cargowaggons are currently used on Tinplate traffic from South Wales to East London, there may be other flows? Over 10 years? Cargowaggons have been in use on cement and metals traffics in that time frame to my knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) MoD traffic seems to be the main use for VGAs these days, both individual workings and as part of Enterprise 'wagonloads'. Cargo wagons seem to see less use, but off the top of my head there's the Daventry water train via the channel tunnel and the Tilbury - Trostre steel Edit - basically what Martyn said, he replied while I was typing! jo Edited January 23, 2014 by ewsjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) VGA's have been used as brake force vehicles on 350 deliveries. http://www.flickr.com/photos/northamptontoffeeman/6907667558/ http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/25689-Bachmann-desiros/page-8&do=findComment&comment=663292 Cheers, Mick Edited January 23, 2014 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Ooh, the other current Cargowaggon one I can recall is Ford parts in 2 axle Cargowaggons between Brigend and Dagenham... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Some pool info from 2008 P-0101 FX ASSIGNED TO 46271 ELY XDW 0007 IZAHF3 GE/EWS ELY-MOSSEND PALLETS EWS55121 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT8029290778 46271 46271 E 091111 07/12/08 18/06/05 07/08/09 8029291727 07365 07365 L 091203 07/12/08 22/06/03 07/08/09 8028292841 07365 07365 L 091203 14/12/08 26/07/07 14/08/09 8028292890 46271 46271 E 091111 14/12/08 05/07/07 14/08/09 8028292528 46271 46271 E 091111 18/12/08 26/10/07 18/08/09 8029291701 07365 07365 L 091203 18/12/08 17/06/03 18/08/09 TOTAL 6 P-0105 FX ASSIGNED TO 39009 SHOTTON XFW 0026 IZA GE/EWS SHOTTON-RIPPLELN PAPER-REEL 087-55127 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT8029291628 72027 51195 E 062320 31/01/02 00/00/00 20/11/00 H 8029290612 72027 51195 E 062320 20/05/05 20/05/05 20/05/06 H 8029290646 72027 72027 E 091115 22/01/07 00/00/00 18/07/07 H 8029290273 72027 51195 E 062320 20/02/07 03/11/04 20/02/08 H 8028292031 35550 39009 E 091121 22/08/07 23/03/07 23/03/08 H 8029290224 72027 51195 E 062416 14/04/07 00/00/00 14/04/08 H 8028292759 35550 39009 E 091121 15/06/07 15/06/07 15/06/08 H 8028292452 35550 39009 E 091121 26/06/07 26/06/07 26/06/08 H 8028292569 35550 39009 E 091121 06/02/08 06/07/07 06/07/08 H 8028292213 35550 39009 E 091121 11/07/07 11/07/07 11/07/08 H 8028292494 35550 39009 E 091121 11/07/07 11/07/07 11/07/08 H 8028292775 35550 39009 E 091121 10/09/07 11/09/07 11/09/08 X 8028292585 35550 39009 E 091121 26/10/07 26/10/07 26/10/08 8028292510 35550 39009 E 091121 13/11/07 13/11/07 13/11/08 8028292551 35550 39009 E 091121 13/11/07 13/11/07 13/11/08 8028292809 35550 39009 E 091121 01/04/08 13/11/07 13/11/08 8028292064 35550 39009 E 091121 12/12/07 12/12/07 12/12/08 TOTAL 17 END P-0107 FX ASSIGNED TO 89735 DOLLANDS XDW 0040 IZA GE/EWS COVENTRY-DANONE WATER.0870 1405127 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT8028292080 00713 00721 E 091110 08/03/07 08/03/07 08/03/08 H 8028292338 00713 00721 E 072206 08/03/07 08/03/07 08/03/08 H 8028292734 00713 00721 E 090309 08/03/07 08/03/07 08/03/08 H 8028292924 00713 69111 L 091204 08/03/07 08/03/07 08/03/08 H 8028292767 00713 00721 E 072607 09/03/07 09/03/07 09/03/08 H 8028292940 00713 00721 E 090309 12/03/07 12/03/07 12/03/08 H 8028292361 00713 00721 E 083009 01/02/08 23/03/07 23/03/08 H 8028292684 00713 00721 E 090209 23/03/07 23/03/07 23/03/08 H 8028292114 00713 00721 E 090611 26/03/07 26/03/07 26/03/08 H 8028292007 00713 00721 E 090309 09/04/07 09/04/07 09/04/08 H 8028292247 00713 69111 L 080310 06/02/08 09/04/07 09/04/08 H 8028292205 00713 69111 L 080310 04/02/08 04/05/07 04/05/08 H 8028292239 00713 00721 E 071711 06/05/07 06/05/07 06/05/08 H 8028292726 00713 00721 E 072206 01/02/08 06/05/07 06/05/08 H 8028292122 00713 69111 L 091204 06/02/08 07/05/07 07/05/08 H 8028292486 00713 00721 E 071711 15/05/07 15/05/07 15/05/08 H 8028292502 00713 69111 L 050801 15/05/07 15/05/07 15/05/08 H 8028292395 69111 89735 E 091207 28/01/08 21/05/07 21/05/08 H 8028292288 00713 00721 E 062507 25/05/07 25/05/07 25/05/08 H 8028292866 00713 00721 E 091110 29/05/07 29/05/07 29/05/08 H 8028292304 00713 00721 E 090611 30/05/07 30/05/07 30/05/08 H 8028292627 69111 69111 L 090807 31/05/07 31/05/07 31/05/08 H 8028292320 00713 00721 E 071609 04/06/07 04/06/07 04/06/08 H 8028292916 00713 00721 E 072206 01/02/08 14/06/07 14/06/08 H 8028292155 00713 00721 E 090611 19/06/07 19/06/07 19/06/08 H 8028292015 69111 69111 L 090809 25/06/07 25/06/07 25/06/08 H 8028292437 69111 89735 E 091207 05/07/07 05/07/07 05/07/08 H 8028292379 00713 00721 E 090309 06/07/07 06/07/07 06/07/08 H 8028292429 00713 00713 L 041010 06/07/07 06/07/07 06/07/08 H 8028292874 69111 89735 E 091207 06/07/07 06/07/07 06/07/08 H 8028292973 00713 00721 E 070209 10/07/07 10/07/07 10/07/08 H 8028292197 69111 69111 L 090909 28/01/08 11/07/07 11/07/08 H 8028292742 00713 69111 L 080310 01/02/08 11/07/07 11/07/08 H 8028292635 00713 00721 E 072206 12/07/07 12/07/07 12/07/08 H 8028292130 00713 00721 E 090611 19/07/07 19/07/07 19/07/08 H 8028292148 00713 69111 L 080310 20/07/07 20/07/07 20/07/08 H 8028292676 69111 69111 L 090809 22/07/07 22/07/07 22/07/08 H 8028292981 69111 89735 E 091207 23/07/07 23/07/07 23/07/08 H 8028292650 00713 69111 L 080310 24/07/07 24/07/07 24/07/08 H 8028292932 00713 00721 E 091110 28/01/08 24/07/07 24/07/08 H 8028292619 00713 00721 E 090209 25/07/07 25/07/07 25/07/08 H 8028292858 00713 00721 E 090611 26/07/07 26/07/07 26/07/08 H 8028292791 00713 69111 L 091204 30/07/07 30/07/07 30/07/08 H 8028292999 00713 69111 L 091204 30/07/07 30/07/07 30/07/08 H 8028292718 00713 69111 L 091204 31/07/07 31/07/07 31/07/08 H 8028292478 00713 00721 E 090611 01/08/07 01/08/07 01/08/08 H 8028292825 00713 00721 E 090209 02/08/07 02/08/07 02/08/08 H 8028292783 00713 00721 E 090209 03/08/07 03/08/07 03/08/08 H 8028292163 00713 00721 E 091110 06/08/07 06/08/07 06/08/08 H 8028292221 00713 69111 L 082303 25/01/08 06/08/07 06/08/08 H 8028292882 00713 69111 L 091204 06/08/07 06/08/07 06/08/08 H 8028292403 00713 00721 E 090611 07/08/07 07/08/07 07/08/08 H 8028292106 00713 00721 E 082408 18/01/08 08/08/07 08/08/08 H 8028292262 69111 89735 E 091207 01/02/08 08/08/07 08/08/08 H 8028292908 00713 00721 E 071711 08/08/07 08/08/07 08/08/08 H 8028292601 00713 00721 E 090309 25/01/08 13/08/07 13/08/08 H 8028292965 00713 00721 E 071609 04/02/08 13/08/07 13/08/08 H 8028292049 00713 69111 L 091204 14/08/07 14/08/07 14/08/08 H 8028292353 00713 00721 E 090611 01/02/08 14/08/07 14/08/08 H 8028292346 00713 00721 E 090611 25/01/08 16/08/07 16/08/08 X 8028292700 00713 00721 E 082408 16/08/07 16/08/07 16/08/08 X 8028292833 00713 69111 L 080310 28/01/08 16/08/07 16/08/08 X 8028292098 69111 69111 L 090807 20/08/07 20/08/07 20/08/08 X 8028292296 00713 00721 E 071609 23/08/07 23/08/07 23/08/08 X 8028292817 00713 69111 L 091204 27/08/07 27/08/07 27/08/08 X 8028292072 69111 89735 E 091207 28/08/07 28/08/07 28/08/08 X 8028292445 00713 00721 E 083009 29/08/07 29/08/07 29/08/08 X 8028292056 00713 69111 L 091204 13/02/08 11/09/07 11/09/08 X 8028292593 00713 00721 E 091110 17/03/08 11/09/07 11/09/08 X 8028292023 00713 00721 E 091110 22/10/07 22/10/07 22/10/08 8028292411 69111 89735 E 091207 22/10/07 22/10/07 22/10/08 8028292536 00713 00721 E 091110 04/04/08 22/10/07 22/10/08 8028292643 00713 69111 L 091204 22/10/07 22/10/07 22/10/08 8028292544 00713 00721 E 090309 23/10/07 23/10/07 23/10/08 8028292312 00713 00721 E 091110 26/10/07 26/10/07 26/10/08 8028292692 00713 00721 E 071711 20/03/08 26/10/07 26/10/08 8028292577 69111 89735 E 091207 06/11/07 06/11/07 06/11/08 8028292668 69111 69111 L 090807 06/11/07 06/11/07 06/11/08 8028292254 00713 00721 E 071711 09/11/07 09/11/07 09/11/08 8028292387 00713 69111 L 091204 17/04/08 09/11/07 09/11/08 8028292957 00713 00721 E 090611 13/11/07 13/11/07 13/11/08 8028292189 69111 69111 L 090807 01/04/08 16/11/07 16/11/08 8028292171 00713 00721 E 070209 02/01/08 02/01/08 02/01/09 8028292460 00713 00721 E 071609 14/01/08 11/09/07 14/01/09 8028292270 00713 00721 E 091110 17/01/08 17/01/08 17/01/09 TOTAL 85 END P-0185 FX ASSIGNED TO 21226 IMMINGHM XDW 0044 IWB/KVA GE/EWS STORA.IMMINGHAM PAPER 55073 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT7027972690 21202 21202 E Y 063018 11/07/08 16/05/03 19/06/08 H WW 7027972849 36090 36090 L 091207 23/10/08 16/05/03 24/09/08 D 7027971817 36090 36090 L 091207 24/10/08 18/10/01 25/09/08 D 7027971460 21226 21226 E 090218 06/11/08 23/11/01 15/10/08 7027972450 21226 21226 E 090218 21/11/08 21/12/01 10/11/08 8027971872 36090 36090 L 091207 27/11/08 22/04/03 14/11/08 7027971734 21226 21226 E 090218 25/12/08 12/11/01 22/11/08 8027971880 07043 07043 L 091011 19/12/08 27/07/04 22/11/08 7027972328 07043 07043 L 091011 19/12/08 21/12/01 28/11/08 7027971908 21226 21226 E 091118 02/12/08 18/10/01 06/12/08 7027971379 21226 21226 E 091019 28/12/08 16/07/04 13/12/08 7027972674 36090 36090 L 091207 01/01/09 03/05/02 19/12/08 7027972856 36090 36090 L 091207 25/12/08 06/03/02 19/12/08 7027971312 21226 21226 E 091118 09/01/09 06/12/01 31/12/08 7027971346 21226 21226 E 091118 09/01/09 18/10/01 07/01/09 7027972922 21226 21226 E 091118 09/01/09 29/10/01 07/01/09 7027971544 36090 36090 L 091207 05/01/09 29/01/02 08/01/09 7027972005 21226 21226 E 090218 30/01/09 18/10/01 10/01/09 7027971809 21226 21226 E 091019 15/01/09 19/11/01 14/01/09 7027972542 21226 21226 E 091118 22/01/09 23/10/01 14/01/09 7027972526 21226 21226 E 091118 22/01/09 18/10/01 15/01/09 7027972179 21226 21226 E 091019 01/01/09 20/11/01 17/01/09 7027971791 07043 07043 L 091011 22/01/09 21/12/01 25/01/09 7027972575 21226 21226 E 091019 26/02/09 30/01/08 30/01/09 7027972385 21226 21226 E 091019 21/02/09 31/10/01 05/02/09 7027972609 21202 21202 E O 082616 06/08/08 03/05/02 05/02/09 O 7027972989 21202 21226 E 091017 12/03/09 29/04/02 07/02/09 8027971823 21226 21226 E 091019 06/03/09 07/05/03 07/02/09 7027972757 21226 21226 E 091019 26/02/09 13/08/03 20/02/09 7027971056 21226 21226 E 090218 18/02/09 25/09/02 25/02/09 8027970080 36090 36090 L 091207 02/09/08 15/12/06 03/03/09 X 7027972641 36090 36090 L 091207 03/09/08 06/03/02 04/03/09 X 8027970031 21226 21226 E 091118 19/09/08 08/12/06 20/03/09 D 7027972468 21226 21226 E 090218 26/09/08 06/03/02 27/03/09 D 8027971633 36090 36090 L 091207 26/09/08 21/02/03 27/03/09 D 8027971658 07043 07043 L 091011 26/09/08 13/12/06 27/03/09 D 8027970494 07043 07043 L 091011 30/09/08 14/12/06 31/03/09 7027971130 21226 21226 E 090218 08/10/08 08/04/08 08/04/09 7027971999 07043 07043 L 091011 11/10/08 11/04/08 11/04/09 7027972617 21226 21226 E 091118 15/10/08 03/05/02 15/04/09 7027972963 21226 21226 E 091118 14/01/09 24/04/02 17/04/09 7027971072 21226 21226 E 090218 30/10/08 30/04/08 30/04/09 8027971138 21226 21226 E 091019 12/11/08 24/01/07 13/05/09 7027971155 21226 21226 E 091118 21/11/08 12/11/01 22/05/09 7027973086 21226 21226 E 090218 21/11/08 28/02/02 22/05/09 8027971344 21226 21226 E 091118 09/12/08 08/05/03 09/06/09 8027970114 21226 21226 E 091019 06/02/09 25/10/06 07/08/09 7027972799 21226 21226 E 091118 25/02/09 26/08/08 26/08/09 7027971643 21226 21226 E 091019 26/02/09 28/02/02 27/08/09 7027973011 36090 36090 L 091207 05/03/09 29/04/02 03/09/09 TOTAL 50 END P-0177 CM ASSIGNED TO 89735 DOLLANDS XDW 0060 IZA GE/SNCF NEASDEN-DMOOR-EVIAN EVIAN.WTR 087-66126 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT8029290067 42141 42141 E 032008 05/09/97 00/00/00 8029290083 00713 89735 E 070109 07/11/96 00/00/00 8029290208 51102 51102 E 041716 06/01/97 00/00/00 8029290216 51102 51102 E 041716 19/11/96 00/00/00 8029290356 51103 51103 E 042415 11/05/95 00/00/00 8029290364 42141 42141 E 042207 14/06/95 00/00/00 8029290380 42141 42141 E 040409 28/08/97 00/00/00 8029290448 42141 42141 E 032008 07/11/96 00/00/00 8029290570 42141 42141 E 032008 10/11/97 00/00/00 8029290620 42141 42141 E 032813 02/08/96 00/00/00 8029290687 51102 51102 E 041716 24/06/96 00/00/00 8029290695 42141 42141 E 032008 04/08/97 00/00/00 8029290703 00713 69111 L 091204 16/10/97 00/00/00 8029290729 51103 51103 E 052915 29/08/95 00/00/00 8029290737 51102 51102 E G 041716 19/09/97 00/00/00 WF 8029290745 42141 42141 E 040409 06/10/97 00/00/00 8029290794 42141 42141 E 032008 18/08/95 00/00/00 8029290810 65700 67362 E 091122 03/06/99 00/00/00 8029290828 00713 69111 L 080310 28/07/97 00/00/00 8029290851 65700 67362 E 091122 24/09/97 00/00/00 8029290893 42141 42141 E 032008 17/05/94 00/00/00 8029290943 42141 42141 E 032813 23/12/96 00/00/00 8029290968 00713 89735 E 070109 13/12/96 00/00/00 8029290976 51102 51102 E 041716 10/10/95 00/00/00 8029290984 42141 42141 E 040409 19/09/95 00/00/00 8029291008 42141 42141 E 032813 07/04/95 00/00/00 8029291032 42141 42141 E 032813 07/10/94 00/00/00 8029291040 00713 69111 L 091204 07/10/94 00/00/00 8029291057 51103 51103 E 042415 10/10/94 00/00/00 8029291065 42141 42141 E 040409 21/01/05 00/00/00 8029291073 42141 42141 E E 040409 11/07/95 00/00/00 W2 DEF/BKE-E8029291081 42141 42141 E 032008 07/10/94 00/00/00 8029291099 42141 42141 E 032813 20/06/95 00/00/00 8029291107 00713 69111 L 091204 07/10/94 00/00/00 8029291115 00713 00726 E 080904 05/09/95 00/00/00 8029291131 42141 42141 E 040409 14/03/95 00/00/00 8029291149 00713 89735 E 070109 25/04/95 00/00/00 8029291156 00713 00721 E 083009 05/06/95 00/00/00 8029291172 42141 42141 E 032813 25/04/95 00/00/00 8029291206 42141 42141 E 032813 10/10/94 00/00/00 8029291214 00713 00721 E 083009 05/10/95 00/00/00 8029291263 51103 51103 E 052915 23/06/95 00/00/00 8029291271 51102 51102 E 041716 09/05/95 00/00/00 8029291289 42141 42141 E 040409 12/05/95 00/00/00 8029291297 51102 51102 E 041716 11/05/95 00/00/00 8029291305 42141 42141 E 032008 11/05/95 00/00/00 8029291313 00713 69111 L 080310 19/10/94 00/00/00 8029291362 42141 42141 E 040409 04/10/94 00/00/00 8029291370 42141 42141 E 040409 01/05/95 00/00/00 8029291388 42141 42141 E 032813 08/08/95 00/00/00 8029291404 65700 67362 E 091122 26/07/95 00/00/00 8029291412 51102 51102 E 041716 12/10/95 00/00/00 8029291420 42141 89730 E 040409 27/09/95 00/00/00 8029291446 65700 67362 E 091122 25/04/95 00/00/00 8029291453 42141 42141 E 040409 17/07/95 00/00/00 8029291461 42141 89730 E 032008 07/06/94 00/00/00 8029291479 72027 72027 E 082311 18/10/95 00/00/00 8029291487 72027 72027 E 090311 02/01/96 00/00/00 8029291495 42141 89730 E K 040409 09/11/95 00/00/00 OO 8029291511 42141 42141 E 032813 27/08/97 00/00/00 8029291545 00713 69111 L 080310 07/10/94 00/00/00 8029291552 51103 51103 E 042415 06/08/97 00/00/00 8029291560 42141 42141 E 032008 15/11/95 00/00/00 8029291578 65700 67362 E 091122 27/08/97 00/00/00 8029291586 00713 89735 E 070109 20/08/97 00/00/00 8029291594 00713 69111 L 091204 20/08/97 00/00/00 8029291602 00713 00721 E 073009 30/04/96 00/00/00 8029291610 69111 89735 E 091207 22/08/97 00/00/00 8029291636 42141 42141 E 032008 19/10/94 00/00/00 8029291644 42141 42141 E 040409 27/07/95 00/00/00 8029291669 00713 00721 E 073009 31/01/96 00/00/00 8029291677 42141 42141 E 040409 11/08/97 00/00/00 8029291792 51102 51102 E 041716 15/08/97 00/00/00 8029291818 42141 42141 E 040409 11/09/97 00/00/00 8029291859 00713 89735 E 070109 24/10/94 00/00/00 8029291982 51102 51102 E 041716 30/07/97 00/00/00 8029290315 42141 42141 E 032813 26/05/99 00/00/00 26/05/00 H 8029290869 00713 00713 L 022305 21/09/99 00/00/00 21/09/00 H 8029291222 42141 42141 E 032813 14/04/07 00/00/00 14/04/08 H 8029291347 42141 42141 E 032813 14/04/07 00/00/00 14/04/08 H 8029290349 42141 42141 E 040409 21/04/07 00/00/00 21/04/08 H 8029291180 42141 42141 E 040409 30/04/07 00/00/00 30/04/08 H 8029290679 51103 51103 E 042415 03/05/07 00/00/00 03/05/08 H 8029291651 69111 89735 E 091207 01/06/07 00/00/00 01/06/08 H 8029291503 42141 42141 E 032813 07/06/07 00/00/00 07/06/08 H 8029291024 42141 42141 E 032008 22/08/07 22/08/07 22/08/08 X 8029291248 42141 42141 E 032008 31/08/07 26/04/07 31/08/08 X 8029291354 72027 72027 E 082111 18/08/08 05/12/07 18/08/09 TOTAL 88 END P-0883 FX ASSIGNED TO 79051 TROSTRE XLW 0025 KVA GE/CORUS TROSTRE/E.VALE-VAR TINPLATE 087-66292 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT7027971049 09150 79051 E 091110 25/10/08 06/12/01 25/04/09 7027971189 79780 79051 E 091109 17/10/08 17/04/08 17/04/09 7027971205 79780 79051 E 091109 10/02/09 30/01/08 30/01/09 7027971221 79051 79053 E P 091207 05/09/08 28/11/01 06/03/09 X PX 7027971403 79051 67125 L 091020 10/02/09 06/12/01 15/01/09 7027971437 79051 79051 E 091207 16/09/08 06/12/01 17/03/09 D 7027971452 79780 79051 E 091109 25/10/08 21/12/01 29/10/08 7027971569 79051 67125 L 091007 02/09/08 23/10/01 03/03/09 X PX 7027971759 79780 79051 E 091119 10/03/09 28/02/02 03/03/09 7027971858 09150 79053 E P 091110 02/09/08 19/11/01 03/03/09 X 7027972377 79051 79051 E 090907 25/10/08 12/11/01 25/04/09 7027972534 79051 79051 E 090907 30/09/08 03/05/02 24/09/08 D 7027972559 09150 79051 E 091110 05/11/08 08/05/03 06/05/09 7027973102 79780 79051 E 091119 10/03/09 03/01/02 03/03/09 8027972078 79051 79051 E 091207 31/10/08 21/02/03 01/05/09 TOTAL 15 END P-0189 FX ASSIGNED TO 85212 PAR-HBR XLW 0003 KVA-E483 GE/ECC PAR-HARBOUR-CLIFF VALE-CHINA CLAY WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT8027975089 85402 85212 E 091016 12/03/09 24/06/04 20/02/09 8027977168 85220 85212 E 091205 11/03/09 11/02/08 11/02/09 8027980055 85412 43215 L 091109 24/10/08 24/04/08 24/04/09 TOTAL 3 END P-0897 FX ASSIGNED TO 89735 FRANCE XDW 0040 IZA GE/EWS EUROPEON-TRAFFIC .....01302 732374 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT 8029290018 69111 69111 L 090807 12/10/06 19/10/04 12/10/07 H 8029290026 00713 00721 E 090309 15/01/07 00/00/00 16/08/07 H 8029290042 00713 00721 E 091110 05/04/07 00/00/00 05/04/08 H 8029290075 00713 69111 L 080310 28/11/06 00/00/00 28/11/07 H 8029290091 70215 69111 L R 050105 24/11/06 01/10/04 24/11/07 H WW RED-CARD8029290109 69111 89735 E 091207 22/12/06 26/04/05 22/12/07 H 8029290141 00713 69111 L 080310 22/01/07 00/00/00 29/08/07 H 8029290166 00713 00721 E 091110 24/11/06 00/00/00 31/05/03 H 8029290174 00713 00721 E 090309 22/12/06 14/04/05 01/08/07 H 8029290190 00713 00721 E 071711 14/04/07 08/07/05 14/04/08 H 8029290240 00713 00721 E 071609 08/05/07 28/02/05 08/05/08 H 8029290257 69111 69111 L 090807 16/03/05 16/03/05 16/03/06 H 8029290265 00713 00721 E 090309 12/03/07 12/04/00 12/03/08 H 8029290281 86090 86093 E K 091105 18/01/07 11/06/05 18/01/08 H WD 8029290323 00713 00721 E 090611 15/04/08 31/03/05 15/04/09 8029290331 00713 69111 L 080310 05/01/07 06/07/05 16/08/07 H 8029290398 00713 69111 L 091204 05/11/06 19/10/04 05/11/07 H 8029290406 69111 69111 L 090807 16/12/06 25/10/04 16/12/07 H 8029290422 00713 00721 E 072206 19/12/06 11/05/05 29/08/07 H 8029290430 00713 69111 L 091204 15/01/07 28/04/05 22/08/07 H 8029290505 00713 00721 E 091110 12/03/07 30/07/05 12/03/08 H 8029290513 00713 00721 E 072607 19/05/05 19/05/05 19/05/06 H 8029290521 00713 00721 E 072607 11/10/91 00/00/00 8029290539 00713 69111 L 091204 17/06/08 03/11/05 17/09/08 D 8029290596 00713 00721 E 090309 02/05/05 02/05/05 02/05/06 H 8029290604 69111 69111 L 090809 24/11/06 17/06/05 24/11/07 H 8029290638 00713 00721 E 090611 15/04/08 00/00/00 15/04/09 8029290844 69111 69111 L 090807 01/12/06 11/11/05 01/12/07 H 8029290901 69111 89735 E 091207 19/12/06 20/01/06 31/08/07 H 8029290992 00713 69111 L 080310 14/11/06 00/00/00 14/11/07 H 8029291016 00713 00721 E 091110 30/07/03 00/00/00 30/07/04 H 8029291123 69111 89735 E 091207 30/01/07 00/00/00 25/08/07 H 8029291164 69111 69111 L 090809 24/09/03 00/00/00 24/09/04 H 8029291198 00713 00721 E 090611 17/06/08 22/05/07 17/06/09 8029291230 00713 69111 L 080310 24/08/06 00/00/00 24/08/07 H 8029291255 00713 00721 E 072206 13/11/06 00/00/00 05/07/07 H 8029291321 00713 00721 E 083009 11/08/00 11/08/00 11/08/01 H 8029291339 00713 00721 E 090611 18/07/07 18/07/07 18/07/08 H 8029291396 00713 00721 E 090209 03/11/06 00/00/00 03/11/07 H 8029291438 00713 69111 L 091204 21/04/08 00/00/00 21/04/09 8029291537 00713 00721 E 070209 07/10/05 24/06/03 07/10/06 H 8029291685 69111 69111 L 090909 20/08/00 00/00/00 16/05/01 H 8029291693 00713 00721 E 072607 31/01/02 00/00/00 07/05/01 H 8029291719 69111 89735 E 091207 13/08/03 13/08/03 13/08/04 H 8029291735 00713 00721 E 091110 17/06/03 17/06/03 17/06/04 H 8029291743 00713 00721 E 090611 05/09/00 00/00/00 07/05/01 H 8029291750 00713 00721 E 071711 12/09/02 00/00/00 12/09/03 H 8029291768 00713 69111 L 080310 30/07/00 00/00/00 07/11/00 H 8029291776 00713 00721 E 091110 21/03/07 18/08/03 21/03/08 H 8029291784 00713 69111 L 080310 20/01/04 00/00/00 20/01/05 H 8029291800 00713 69111 L 091204 15/04/08 22/06/03 30/11/08 8029291826 00713 00721 E 071711 22/06/03 22/06/03 22/06/04 H 8029291834 00713 00721 E 070209 26/04/07 10/09/03 26/04/08 H 8029291842 69111 69111 L 090807 22/08/03 22/08/03 22/08/04 H 8029291867 86110 86093 E E 090406 22/08/03 22/08/03 22/08/04 H O2 DEF/BKE-E8029291875 00713 69111 L 080310 05/08/03 05/08/03 05/08/04 H 8029291883 00713 00721 E 090611 22/06/03 22/06/03 22/06/04 H 8029291891 69111 89735 E 091207 04/11/03 04/11/03 04/11/04 H 8029291909 00713 00721 E 090309 13/08/03 13/08/03 13/08/04 H 8029291917 86090 86093 E M 091105 22/06/03 22/06/03 22/06/04 H W4 8029291925 00713 69111 L 080310 30/09/03 30/09/03 30/09/04 H 8029291933 69111 89735 E 091207 13/08/03 13/08/03 13/08/04 H 8029291941 00713 00721 E 072206 22/08/03 22/08/03 22/08/04 H 8029291958 00713 00721 E 090909 08/08/03 08/08/03 08/08/04 H 8029291966 69111 69111 L 090807 22/08/03 22/08/03 22/08/04 H 8029291974 00713 00721 E 090209 20/03/07 18/08/03 20/03/08 H 8029291990 00713 00721 E 090309 31/01/02 00/00/00 14/05/01 H TOTAL 67 P-0178 CM UN-ASSIGNED * XDW 0125 IVA-E514 CGW/FORD DAGM-S.WALES-HALEWD COMPONENTS LARGEVANS WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT8023985068 51401 51401 L 091206 04/03/09 00/00/00 02/03/09 8023985100 79797 79797 L 091105 30/12/08 31/03/98 30/12/08 8023985118 79797 79797 E 052709 09/09/08 02/10/98 10/09/08 X 8023985183 51401 51401 L U 091206 09/09/08 28/03/98 10/09/08 X 8023985191 51401 51401 L U 091206 09/09/08 30/10/98 10/09/08 X 8023985209 79797 79797 L 090304 14/11/08 18/04/98 14/11/08 8023985217 79797 79797 L 091204 23/12/08 00/00/00 23/12/08 8023985233 79797 79797 L 091204 01/10/08 28/03/98 01/10/08 D 8023985258 79797 79797 L 091005 08/01/09 17/04/98 09/01/09 8023985266 79797 79797 L 091005 06/03/09 13/05/98 04/03/09 8023985290 79797 79797 L 091204 13/03/09 00/00/00 11/03/09 8023985308 00713 00726 E 082904 05/11/08 00/00/00 06/11/08 8023985324 79797 79797 L 090205 13/01/09 00/00/00 14/01/09 8023985332 79797 79797 L 091005 23/12/08 00/00/00 23/12/08 8023985365 79797 79797 L 090712 08/01/09 00/00/00 09/01/09 8023985506 79797 79797 L 091204 12/03/09 00/00/00 10/03/09 8023985522 72027 51401 E 082811 11/02/09 11/08/08 11/02/09 8023985530 72027 51401 E 082811 11/02/09 11/08/08 11/02/09 8023985548 00713 00726 E 082904 14/11/08 00/00/00 15/11/08 8023985597 00713 00726 E 082203 22/01/09 00/00/00 23/01/09 8023985654 79797 79797 L 091105 12/03/09 00/00/00 10/03/09 8023985662 79797 79797 L 091204 14/01/09 00/00/00 15/01/09 8023985704 79797 79797 L 091204 16/01/09 00/00/00 17/01/09 8023985746 51401 72990 E G 072406 26/07/08 00/00/00 25/07/08 H PY 8023985753 79797 79797 L 091204 28/02/09 00/00/00 28/02/09 OO 8023985878 79797 79797 L 091204 13/03/09 00/00/00 11/03/09 8023985886 79797 79797 L 091105 24/01/09 00/00/00 25/01/09 8023985894 79797 79797 L 091105 19/12/08 00/00/00 19/12/08 8023985936 79797 79797 L 091204 28/02/09 00/00/00 28/02/09 8023985944 51401 51401 L 091206 16/01/09 00/00/00 17/01/09 8023985951 51401 89735 E L 082914 28/08/08 00/00/00 27/08/08 X PY 8023985969 79797 79797 L 091105 14/01/09 00/00/00 15/01/09 8023985977 51401 51401 L 091206 11/11/08 00/00/00 12/11/08 8023985985 51401 51401 L 091206 04/03/09 00/00/00 02/03/09 8023985993 79797 79797 L 090506 19/12/08 00/00/00 19/12/08 8023986009 79797 79797 L 091105 06/01/09 00/00/00 07/01/09 8023986025 79797 79797 L 091005 14/11/08 00/00/00 14/11/08 8023986033 79797 79797 L 091105 01/10/08 00/00/00 01/10/08 D 8023986041 79797 79797 L 090205 19/02/09 00/00/00 20/02/09 8023986058 79797 79797 L 091204 15/11/08 00/00/00 15/11/08 8023986066 79797 79797 L 091005 28/02/09 00/00/00 28/02/09 8023986082 79797 79797 L 091204 21/02/09 00/00/00 22/02/09 8023986116 79797 79797 L 082905 10/01/09 00/00/00 11/01/09 8023986132 79797 79797 L 090712 21/02/09 00/00/00 22/02/09 8023986157 79797 79797 L 091105 15/11/08 00/00/00 15/11/08 8023986165 79797 79797 L 091005 09/09/08 14/05/97 10/09/08 X 8023986181 79797 79797 L 091105 18/10/08 00/00/00 18/10/08 8023986363 79797 79797 L 091105 15/11/08 00/00/00 16/11/08 8023986371 79797 79797 L 082204 06/01/09 00/00/00 07/01/09 8023986389 79797 79797 L 091005 07/01/09 00/00/00 08/01/09 8023986397 51401 51401 L 091206 10/01/09 00/00/00 11/01/09 8023986447 79797 79797 L 091105 12/03/09 00/00/00 10/03/09 TOTAL 52 END P-0127 FX ASSIGNED TO 89730 DOLLMOOR XDW 0060 IWA GE/FIEGE UK-GERMANY-ITALY DIAGEO 087-66127 WGN NUMBER LOCTN DESTN L C YDTIME PPM-DATE LCR-DATE NEXTVIBT I DD COMMENT7027953004 00713 70087 L 090814 11/02/98 11/02/98 11/02/99 H 8027975808 72027 89730 E 090604 23/06/00 00/00/00 23/06/01 H 8027975832 72027 89730 E 090604 29/06/00 00/00/00 29/06/01 H 8027975857 00713 70087 L 091107 23/06/00 00/00/00 23/06/01 H 8027975865 00713 00726 E 090403 11/07/00 00/00/00 11/07/01 H 8027975923 89735 00726 E 091201 18/09/99 00/00/00 18/09/00 H 8027975931 00713 70087 L 091008 22/06/00 00/00/00 22/06/01 H 8027975949 65700 70087 L 091122 19/07/00 00/00/00 19/07/01 H 8027975980 72027 00726 E 083007 14/07/00 00/00/00 14/07/01 H 8027976020 65700 70087 L 091122 24/07/00 00/00/00 19/05/01 H 8027976079 00713 00726 E E 081403 13/08/98 00/00/00 O2 DEF/BKE-E8027976095 00713 00726 E E 082904 03/07/00 00/00/00 03/07/01 H O2 DEF/BKE-E8027976129 00713 00726 E E 080803 07/06/00 00/00/00 07/06/01 H W2 DEF/BKE-E8027976160 89735 00726 E 091201 05/07/00 00/00/00 05/07/01 H 8027976194 72027 89738 E R 080105 20/06/00 00/00/00 20/06/01 H WW RED-CARD8027976210 00713 70087 L 090814 17/09/87 00/00/00 8027976251 00713 00726 E 090403 10/11/88 19/07/86 19/07/87 H 8027976269 00713 00726 E 090503 07/08/87 00/00/00 8027976285 00713 00726 E 081403 18/07/00 00/00/00 18/07/01 H 8027976293 72027 00726 E 091205 28/06/00 00/00/00 28/06/01 H 8027976517 00713 00726 E 090403 03/04/96 00/00/00 8027976533 00713 70087 L 091008 28/06/00 00/00/00 28/06/01 H 8027976566 72027 89730 E 090604 27/04/00 00/00/00 27/04/01 H 8027976574 00713 00726 E 090903 14/08/98 00/00/00 8027976632 00713 70087 L 091107 13/07/00 00/00/00 13/07/01 H 8027976657 00713 00726 E 090903 24/11/83 00/00/00 8027976681 89735 00726 E 091201 03/08/00 26/09/86 03/08/01 H 8027976707 00713 00726 E 081403 18/01/00 00/00/00 18/01/01 H 8027976749 89735 00726 E 091201 09/08/00 00/00/00 09/08/01 H 8027976756 00713 70087 L 091107 07/07/00 00/00/00 07/07/01 H 8027976772 00713 00726 E 090304 21/07/00 00/00/00 21/07/01 H 8027976814 00713 70087 L 091107 15/05/00 00/00/00 15/05/01 H 8027976848 65700 00726 E 091112 07/08/00 00/00/00 07/08/01 H 8027976863 00713 00726 E 090503 05/08/88 00/00/00 8027976897 00713 00726 E 070804 21/06/00 28/05/87 21/06/01 H 8027976905 00713 00726 E 081403 29/09/00 00/00/00 29/09/01 H 8027976962 00713 70087 L 091107 06/07/00 00/00/00 06/07/01 H 8027976970 00713 00726 E 090304 24/07/00 00/00/00 24/07/01 H 8027977010 00713 00726 E 090503 12/07/00 00/00/00 12/07/01 H 8027977044 00713 00726 E 090403 14/08/98 00/00/00 8027977051 00713 00726 E 081603 19/05/92 00/00/00 8027977085 65700 00726 E E 091112 14/08/98 00/00/00 D2 DEF/BKE-E8027977093 65700 00726 E 091112 19/05/92 00/00/00 8027977127 00713 00726 E 090503 27/09/91 00/00/00 8027977135 00713 00726 E 090403 18/09/98 00/00/00 8027977176 65700 70087 L 091122 19/12/84 10/01/84 8027977184 72027 00726 E 083007 11/03/95 00/00/00 15/06/84 H 8027977192 65700 00726 E 091112 17/07/00 00/00/00 17/07/01 H 8027977200 72027 00726 E 083007 24/07/00 00/00/00 24/07/01 H 8027977226 00713 00726 E 091104 29/06/87 00/00/00 8027977234 00713 70087 L 091107 01/08/00 00/00/00 01/08/01 H 8027977242 00713 00726 E 081403 29/06/87 00/00/00 8027977259 00713 70087 L 090814 30/03/87 00/00/00 8027977291 00713 00726 E 090403 07/11/84 00/00/00 8027977309 65700 00726 E 091112 20/02/02 00/00/00 20/02/03 H 8027977325 00713 00726 E 090503 14/08/98 00/00/00 8027977333 00713 00726 E 090403 02/06/99 00/00/00 02/06/00 H 8027977341 65700 00726 E 091112 03/10/00 00/00/00 03/10/01 H 8027980006 00713 00726 E 091104 13/05/85 00/00/00 8027980048 65700 00726 E 091112 03/04/96 00/00/00 8027980063 00713 00726 E 090903 11/03/95 00/00/00 8027980071 00713 70087 L 091107 20/07/00 00/00/00 20/07/01 H 8027980089 00713 00726 E 090503 11/05/02 00/00/00 11/05/03 H 8027980121 72027 89730 E 090604 11/03/95 00/00/00 8027980139 00713 00726 E 090304 15/02/02 04/11/88 15/02/03 H TOTAL 65 END 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods_of_Revolution Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 6B99 St Blazey - Newport ADJ "Enterprise" often has Cargowaggons in the consist. Cheers, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Cargowaggons regularly with the PCAs at Craiginches Aberdeen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I saw a massive rake of cargowagons head through Denmark Hill in 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I saw a massive rake of cargowagons head through Denmark Hill in 2013 Would these have been the bogie ones (as per the Heljan model) or the ones that consist of pairs of twin-axle wagons. The latter still run on the mineral-water flows to Daventry from a number of locations in France; the former I've not seen on my (almost) daily trips to Coquelles for some while. What has reappeared in recent weeks have been rakes of the bogie sort with sliding roof/sides, rather than just sliding sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Both usually seen at Didcot on most days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 What has reappeared in recent weeks have been rakes of the bogie sort with sliding roof/sides, rather than just sliding sides.These are for a 2-way flow of aluminium coils/ingots between Germany and Cheshire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) I'm not trying to be clever, but would like to identify the various ferry wagons commonly called 'Cargowaggons' Built for Cargowaggon 2 axle van 4 axle twin vans 4 axle sliding wall vans 4 axle covered flats Built for VTG then owned by Tiphook 4 axle sliding wall vans Built for Italian State Railways 4 axle sliding wall vans Built for GE 4 axle twin vans Built for Transfesa 2 axle van There were a few others built for Danzas and some bogie vans for Transfesa. Too long in the rail industry, Edited January 25, 2014 by The Bigbee Line 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Ah well, this is all interesting, but it seems that the scope for modelling my chosen idea will be that it is possible at the time but didnt quite happen. The EWS Enterprise service gets near to it, as its a supermarket supplied by rail. DRS have the main contract. I guess its a case of its possible, but rule 1 - being I run what Id like to see is what will happen. Think EWS will supply too. Still, the wagon family in this range is quite extensive, im surprised there are not more varients of the wagons made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I remember there was a artical in the model rail about someone who had built the 2axle cargo wagons with plans, and that plans for the same are available on the p4 new street site, thanks to JSW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ah well, this is all interesting, but it seems that the scope for modelling my chosen idea will be that it is possible at the time but didnt quite happen. The EWS Enterprise service gets near to it, as its a supermarket supplied by rail. DRS have the main contract. I guess its a case of its possible, but rule 1 - being I run what Id like to see is what will happen. Think EWS will supply too. Still, the wagon family in this range is quite extensive, im surprised there are not more varients of the wagons made. An *individual* supermarket served by rail is pretty seriously unlikely*, especially one with multiple deliveries via multiple FOCs! But one thing that some of the twin vans have been used on in the past is supermarket-related flows betweet Daventry and Scotland (loaded both ways) - from memory one direction was loaded with Coca Cola products... (*Although there was a recent trial involved serving retail outlets on London stations by rail, using former motorail vans!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Bin the idea david, Use the cargowaggons for early 90s Guinness and cider, Get some vAAs for 80s chocolate traffic... Hmmm, beer and chocolate ..l Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Well the layout is all ready built and has been on the circuit. People didnt mind the fact that the supermarket was supplied by rail, in fact they thought it made sense. There were plans for Asda to start looking into serving stores by rail a few years ago, hence the idea was taken forward, but they came to nought. Distribution centres were served, the contract went to DRS, but that is as far as it got. Instead, I think the idea might still be used, but that it might become a distribution centre for a company too. The idea is sound enough and the layout might get a rename as its so far removed from the reality it is based on its more surreal than based on fact. As for beer and chocolate. Im a real ale man, with a tendancy for Scampi fries with that... not chocs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 EWS was using VGA's for light fitting traffic from Bodmin at least until 2001. VGA's were also (very)occasionally seen at Thurso on building supplies traffic until 2004. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 These might be of use: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Does anyone know if the the IWA Cargowaggon vans worked through to Italy on international freight trains? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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