25901 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 How can some of these kettles be authentic? Some of them never had train brakes fitted, but they've been added in preservation to allow them to carry passengers and for people to froth about riding behind them, hell, the coal they burn is imported from America or Poland, the water is treated to reduced the hardness, the boilers are patched with modern materials that are close but not quite there, the tyres are replaced as required, the originals being scrapped years ago etc etc. If you complain about the colour then by logical extent you need to be complaining about everything else. Authentic, lets run them of 5/10 yrs and then stick them in a siding for 30 yrs to rust. Put diesels on the line and then close it due to not having the right passenger figures 7 days a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Authentic, lets run them of 5/10 yrs and then stick them in a siding for 30 yrs to rust. Put diesels on the line and then close it due to not having the right passenger figures 7 days a week I can think of a preserved railway being run along those very lines at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I can think of a preserved railway being run along those very lines at the moment. The one with "money off the next c***k-up"? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 The one with "money off the next c***k-up"? Mike Could be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 And which line is that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 And which line is that then? Unfortunately I can't tell you that as implication and naming are two different things, those that know will understand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Returning to the original subject of the thread. 92214 looked fantastic today in service on the G.C. And in unlined black too!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 92912 Posted May 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 6, 2014 A couple of snaps of 92214 in plain black operating at the GCR on 5/5/14. The rest of the days photos can be found at http://jpsgallery.zenfolio.com/p228038716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Looks brilliant. Dare I say as BR intended?! Now put it on the wind cutters. Beautiful thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 6, 2014 nice pics of Cromwell too in that set - incidentally the "other" 70013 was tucked up at Brush the other side of "the gap" yesterday Sorry about the rubbish pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Looks brilliant. Dare I say as BR intended?! Now put it on the wind cutters. Beautiful thought that. Wait until this weekend and she should be on the wind cutters I believe at some point (going off previous galas), as well as appearing in weathered condition. Regards, Wild Boar Fell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37255 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Wait until this weekend and she should be on the wind cutters I believe at some point (going off previous galas), as well as appearing in weathered condition. Regards, Wild Boar Fell Not according to the timetables - in fact, the only mention of the windcutters appears to be one run Swithland to Loughborough late Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Just spotted on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/lmslad/13968372877/in/set-72157644599473642 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Just spotted on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/lmslad/13968372877/in/set-72157644599473642 A decent attempt, but let down by the fact the weathering is somewhat uniform, plus the bottom half is still immaculate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I think it looks fantastic (bar the wheels) Can't make everyone happy can we? Edit: I wonder how they did it? Will it be cleaned back to ex works afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I think it looks fantastic (bar the wheels) Can't make everyone happy can we? Edit: I wonder how they did it? Will it be cleaned back to ex works afterwards? Probably ash and other associated muck mixed with water and painted on, hence the 'uniform' look. It's normally quite simple to literally wash off. Preserved locomotives will never be able to recreate genuine 'heavy weathering' unless they're not cleaned for many months and are constantly around other steam locos. Authentic steam loco grot was a mix of oil, grease, soot and road dirt and this heady mix embedded itself onto and into everything, especially around boiler bands, nuts, crevices and all protruding items such as domes, handrail knobs, framework, brake rigging and the like. Basically it was the kind of horrible waxy crap that to properly put right required judicious use of a steam lance and a new paintjob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Just to bring the story upto date, 92214 now carries the name Central Star. With cast plates. It really does look superb in Evening Star style BR Green. Below shows it prior to the fitment of the new plates. https://flic.kr/p/o3r1Ag Will try and grab a photo of it in its current condition at some point. Regards, Wild Boar Fell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 Better name than 'Cromwell', I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Very true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2015 It will look good running with a black (no longer red) 8F. Hope to see both later this spring. Dava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Dava, The 8F is back in red, though may be having work done to the paintwork soon. Regards, Wild Boar Fell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Just read that there will be yet another interesting alteration happening to 92214 shortly, this could be pretty interesting. Wild Boar Fell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Just read that there will be yet another interesting alteration happening to 92214 shortly, this could be pretty interesting. Wild Boar Fell It's going to be interesting, then? Mmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 Dava, The 8F is back in red, though may be having work done to the paintwork soon. Regards, Wild Boar Fell That's right, the weathering for the gala/photo charters was poster paint, it washes off. 92214 has also had this treatment previously (as mentioned above) http://www.gcrailway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/92214-Weathered-Andy-Bennett.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 92214 is to run as 92220 'Evening Star' http://www.gcrailway.co.uk/special-events/railways-at-work-weekend-1819-april/ Also the red 8F is no longer going to be red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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